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This page is for nominations to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page. For the discussion page see WT:DYK. Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area, from which the articles are promoted into the Queue.


Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
January 7 1
January 26 1
January 28 1
February 1 1
February 8 1
February 24 1
February 26 1
February 27 2
March 1 1
March 3 1
March 5 1
March 6 2
March 9 2
March 11 2
March 12 2
March 14 1
March 15 8
March 17 2 1
March 18 2
March 19 6 2
March 20 3
March 21 2 1
March 22 2 2
March 23 3 1
March 24 6 1
March 25 4
March 26 4 3
March 27 9 3
March 28 3 3
March 29 4 3
March 30 5 2
April 1 6 4
April 2 12 9
April 3 6 5
April 4 6 3
April 5 7 4
April 6 6 4
April 7 8 3
April 8 13 8
April 9 14 7
April 10 7 5
April 11 8 5
April 12 6 2
April 13 7 3
April 14 5 4
April 15 11 7
April 16 11 3
April 17 7 5
April 18 8 6
April 19 10 2
April 20 4 1
April 21 10 3
April 22 6 2
April 23 5
April 24
Total 267 117
Last updated 05:52, 24 April 2018 UTC
Current time is 09:44, 24 April 2018 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[edit]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
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To nominate an article[edit]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.
For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.

Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began (or, if a new Good Article, the date on which it became a GA), not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Consider adding {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}} to the article's talk page (without a section heading‍—‌the template adds a section heading automatically).

How to review a nomination[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
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If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]


This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[edit]

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

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Instructions for other editors[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • Hooks that have been approved are located on the approved nominations page.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
  • Add a link to the nomination subpage at Wikipedia:Did you know/Removed to help in tracking removals.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.


Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on January 7[edit]

Ancient Beringian

  • that the Ancient Beringian are the first population of Paleo-Indians, which migrated from Siberia across Beringia and into Alaska during the lithic stage approximately twenty thousand years ago?

Created by IQ125 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:04, 7 January 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New enough, long enough, neutral, cited (but see note after this line), no obvious copyvios (paraphrasing to be checked after cites are improved, again see note). Hook is on the border of being too long and should probably be cut down. There's about three distinct facts in there, if not more. A good interesting hook usually has at most two facts within it, usually one. The biggest problem here is the inline citations. Throwing seven inline cites on every sentence isn't particularly informative about where the information is coming from. Please improve the inline citations so that each sentence is cited only to the reference (or references) being used to support it. After that, I'll check for close paraphrasing and double-check that all of this is verified. ~ Rob13Talk 09:06, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Note: article has been proposed to be merged into another article; nomination is on hold until the merger proposal has been closed. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:44, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
I think "Beringia" and "lithic stage" need explanation, perhaps wikilinks, and the latter is also a proper name and needs a capital. HLHJ (talk) 00:09, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 26[edit]

Joan Benesh

  • ... that ballerina Joan Benesh married the man who worked out a way to record her dances?
  • ALT1 ... that ballerina Joan Benesh married the man who worked out a way to notate her dances?

Created by Andrew Davidson (talk). Self-nominated at 23:32, 2 February 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is long enough, new enough, and passes core content policies. However, the hook is a bit confusing. In this case, record means "record into a notation system." But I think it will be read, "record onto film'". @Andrew Davidson: could you reword the hook a bit so that it is more clear? I think its is almost a really good hook. Smmurphy(Talk) 07:43, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
  • @Smmurphy: Thanks for the review. I have proposed ALT1 above which uses a more precise verb. (per OED, "notate, v. – to set down or record using a system of notation"). Andrew D. (talk) 12:04, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Great. I'll approve both, but prefer Alt1 as "notate" just seems a bit more clear to me. Smmurphy(Talk) 14:50, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Returned from prep per discussion at WT:DYK. Joan and her husband co-invented the notation according to the article and sources. I think a different hook is needed. Yoninah (talk) 17:09, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I maintain that ALT1 is fine. The source above states, "He offered to make a system of signs to help her ... While it was Rudolf who devised these marks, it was Joan Benesh who, as a choreographer and dancer, knew exactly what function the marks had to have." So, their roles were complementary; she had the dancing expertise and requirement and he devised the notation. Other sources state "Rudolf Benesh, who invented Benesh Movement Notation and perfected it with the help of his wife..." ; "When Rudolf Benesh invented the notation in 1947"; "The invention of BMN is commonly attributed to Rudolf Benesh, with his wife Joan relegated to a supporting role in the story.... Andrew D. (talk) 22:42, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Then the article is wrong. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:19, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
It states: "... was a ballet dancer who, with her husband Rudolf, invented the Benesh Movement Notation ..." i.e. she invented it with her husband. She didn't marry the man who invented the system, she married the man with whom she defined the system. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:35, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Rudolf devised the initial notation in 1947. They married in 1949. The system was not fully developed until 1955/6 when the Royal Ballet adopted it and An Introduction to Benesh Dance Notation was published. The latter work was credited to Rudolf and Joan Benesh because they had developed and written it together. The point is that the initial notation is not the same as the full fledged formal system which took years to develop. It's that 1% inspiration 99% perspiration issue. Andrew D. (talk) 00:10, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg We seem to be stuck. Please could a ballet expert like Smerus or Tim Riley comment on the dispute to help us forward. Andrew D. (talk) 14:49, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

I am bound to disclaim the label "ballet expert". My attendance at three ballet-related editathons at the Royal Opera House was as an experienced WP editor who could help new editors with the nuts and bolts of creating and editing articles. I was emphatically not there as any kind of expert on ballet. I have heard of the Benesh notation, and that's about as far as my knowledge of this topic goes. So, apologies. Tim riley talk 15:30, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Apologies, although I am usually only too happy to allow myself to be called an expert, my two left feet and ignorance of any ballet (save for those of Prokofiev) utterly disqualify me in this sphere.--Smerus (talk) 08:23, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Andrew Davidson, Yoninah, & The Rambling Man, how about:
ALT2: ... that ballerina Joan Benesh married the man with whom she worked out a way to notate her dances? --Usernameunique (talk) 23:21, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
  • No, ALT2 is not quite right. See Rudolf Benesh which explains, "She was having difficulty with her attempts to write and then decipher dance steps. He then devised a dance notation system while at work in the office. He wrote some lines to represent a movement of someone at a desk, then asked someone else to decipher them. The system evolved in the period 1947 to 1955." So, she already had a method of notation but it was not working well. He devised a better method for her and they then developed and formalised it together. Let's try ALT3, which tries to convey the incremental nature of their work. Andrew D. (talk) 07:17, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
  • ALT3 ... that ballerina Joan Benesh married the man who suggested a better way of notating her dances?
Symbol question.svg Willing to look. ALT3 seems fine, but I'd include a link to Benesh notation, to indicate that it isn't their private thing, but THE notation. Could you please place refs at the ends of paragraphs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 28[edit]

Emil Fröschels

Created/expanded by Robert K S (talk). Self-nominated at 05:46, 28 January 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article contains "suspended" word instead of "stripped of" as used here. These are two different terms. And the fact that he was a founder of the field of speech therapy, is not in the reference, it says he was founder and director of speech and voice clinics and He founded and served as president of the New York Society for Speech and Voice Therapy 1947-1972.

The article is new and the prose is enough, however the hook needs to be revisited and recreated to meet the guidelines.  MehrajMir (talk) 15:26, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

I think the article is fairly clear that he "lost his venia legendi (status as a lecturer)", i.e., was dehabilitated, i.e., stripped of his lecturer status. It seems a little strange to get hung up on the word "suspended" which comes earlier in the sentence and is used to refer to his position, not his habilitation (the former being a job, the latter being more like a license). Moreover, the Nazis were not going to un-suspend Fröschels. In point of fact he had to flee the country for his life in 1939. Robert K S (talk) 03:55, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg As per WP:DYK, I'm unable to get the current hook verified from those inline references. Therefore I'm turning the review over to a new reviewer for any possible approval soon.  MehrajMir (talk) 06:41, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
I think these are the two most significant references: [1] (German) [2] (English). Robert K S (talk) 07:41, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
I am ready to review. Interesting life, on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. - For the hook fact: the term logopedics appears only in the lead and the sentence about the founding in 1924. Can you clarify in the article, with source(s), how that constitutes what the hook says? - Or find another hook? - How do you feel about an infobox? - I think that "ear clinic" is not a common word in English, - perhaps say Ohrenklinik once, explain, and then use a more English term? If "ear clinic" the capitalization should be consistent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:34, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for reviewing. Can you propose a different hook? As for your proposed changes for the article, I think you should go ahead and make them. I don't know much more about the subject than what is in the article. I do know, from a book I am translating, that his co-workers found his clinical office empty the day of the Anschluss. Surprise, surprise. Anyway, I am not at all married to the hook and if you can modify it in a way that clears any hurdles I beg you to go ahead and do so. Thanks! Robert K S (talk) 07:43, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, - it's not so much the Anschluss thing, but the "a founder of the field of speech therapy" that I think could be clearer in the article, and you can do it better than I could. I can take care of "ear clinic" and infobox, but only later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
I would like you to propose a change in the hook that satisfies the applicable standard, if you could. I can see that calling a person a "founder" of a field is a bit of a subjective thing; one always has predecessors even if they did not strike upon the same ideas and implementations. To that extent, the language of the statement translated from the German Wikipedia counterpart article, even if correct from the perspective of its original author, may never be satisfactorily sourceable. As for "ear clinic", today you would go to an ENT clinic, but back then they didn't include the nose and throat in the discipline. If you don't like "ear clinic" you could just delete it and go with otiological clinic, as the article already specifies parenthetically. Robert K S (talk) 19:23, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Understand, I guess.
Symbol voting keep.svg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but I don't think it's going to pass muster with the editors at DYK and administrators who want thoroughly sourced facts. The claim in the lead, Together with Karl Cornelius Rothe, he is considered the founder of speech therapy, is not sourced. Under "Work" it says, Fröschels is next to Hermann Gutzmann Sr. as a pioneer of modern language research and founder of speech therapy, which is also unsourced. Don't these statements contradict one another? The third paragraph under "Life" needs at least one citation, per Rule D2, and the last half of the first paragraph under "Life" could also use a citation. Where did you get all this information?
  • Regarding the hook, perhaps you could say something about him forming the IALP, or adding something from footnote 2 to introduce readers to the terms "logopedics" and "phoniatrics". After you address the above citations, I could help you formulate a hook. Yoninah (talk) 23:32, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg It has been just about three weeks, and the issues raised above have not been addressed, and there have been no further comments past a discussion on the nominator's talk page, which hasn't been posted to since February 19. I don't know whether Afernand74, who did work on the article's refs after it was posted, might be able to help out here with additional sourcing or not. If not, the article may not be able to run at DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:15, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svgBlueMoonset, Yoninah: I added a reference to support the hook. Not my field of expertise though. An alternative wording could be "internationally recognized for his pioneering work on speech therapy?" Hope this helps. Afernand74 (talk) 09:59, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thanks for your help, Afernand74. Typically, at DYK, the person who adds the source is not the person to pass the nomination; it needs another set of eyes to confirm this, so I'll let Yoninah confirm whether this and/or the suggested rewording addresses the issues raised. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:28, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Looking more closely at the article, there's a lot of information here that isn't sourced; where did you find all this? Each claim should be cited. I think the sweeping statements assigning him prominence should be removed from the article altogether. I fixed the last sentence in the lead to say what he did do. Yoninah (talk) 22:21, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Regarding the above comments, I cannot add anything more to this article, which was a translation from the German Wikipedia. In my opinion the article is in as good shape as any translated article posted to DYK and is ready for posting. A DYK article is not intended to be a Good Article. To the contrary, DYK posting is designed not only as trivia to interest Main Page readers but as a way of attracting editors to new articles that could use improvement. I don't think there are any significant problems with sourcing in the article overall. Yoninah does have concerns with language and DYK visitors to the article can edit the article to improve it. The article should be promoted to DYK status or not, but I think it would be a shame to exclude it on the basis that it's not, by some standards, in perfect shape yet, because rewarding perfect articles is not the point of DYK. Robert K S (talk) 19:00, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 1[edit]

Wang Bingzhang (general)

Wang Bingzhang
Wang Bingzhang

Created by Zanhe (talk). Self-nominated at 19:44, 2 February 2018 (UTC).

  • On it.

    Symbol question.svg New enough; long enough [~4.8k elig. chars.]; Earwig finds no copyvio; probably about as well-sourced as possible in English and well written without any of the POVy tone situations like this lend themselves to; I always prefer {{chinese}} infoboxes (allows Wade, &c., more easily and avoids the malformatted semicolons of {{zh}}) and have started adding External links to the Baidu Baike and Baike.com articles on Chinese topics, but I'll just leave that for Zanhe to consider since we were having some issues earlier. Apologies on my end, and happy Spring Festival. =) 

    QPQ still needed.

    As far as the hook, it all checks out except for the without being charged of a crime part. The People's Daily explicitly accuses him of involvement in the Lin Biao conspiracy; Phoenix News just says he was held, using his daughter as its source; China's Space Program similarly just says he was arrested, although not on the linked page, so I might be missing something there. Now, they didn't prosecute him when he got out (saw that) but is there one of the sources that explicitly says that he was never charged with a crime while being held? I'd imagine something like "sedition", "treason", &c. related to Mao's fears about the clique around Lin Biao could easily have been made or mooted, even though they never got the evidence to finalize the sentence with a judge. If I didn't miss something (easily possible: just explain if I'm missing something from the Chinese sources) and no one came out and said that, you can probably still make this work with a little rephrasing about "declining to prosecute" or sth.

    The pic has a Chinese license but apparently (?) needs a separate American one to be used freely, since Wikipedia's based in the US. — LlywelynII 09:22, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks for pointing out the error in the hook. It should read "without being convicted of a crime", but I got careless after spending hours poring over the sources. So here's ALT1:
  • ALT1 ... that Lt. Gen. Wang Bingzhang (pictured), head of China's ballistic missile and satellite programs, was imprisoned for ten years without being convicted of a crime?
I've added the Chinese infobox module to the infobox. I prefer the Chinese infobox too, but sometimes get lazy :).
Regarding the image, there have been complex discussions about the URAA at the Commons, but the current situation is that URAA images are ok for the commons, which means ok for DYK (see official position of the Wikimedia Foundation and community decision).
QPQ has been added.
No worries about the past issues. New year, new beginning :) -Zanhe (talk) 20:59, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed; original reviewer has not returned in nearly eight weeks. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:16, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The issues were QPQ needed (now provided), URAA license (per link Zanhe provided, Wikimedia stance is to keep such content), and the semantics of the hook. Zanhe, is the NDSTC the same thing as the Ministry of National Defense. If so, the hook checks out (article says Bingzhang was the deputy director of the Ministry of National Defense, but became the acting director of the NDSTC), but this should be clarified where the article links to the Ministry of National Defense. --Usernameunique (talk) 23:53, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Usernameunique: the NDSTC (unfortunately no article yet) was in charge of China's strategic weapons programs and commanded vast resources (see China's Techno-warriors). It was nominally a division of the Defence Ministry, but reported directly to the Central Military Commission. As acting head of the NDSTC, Wang was in charge of China's nuclear tests, strategic missiles, and satellites. -Zanhe (talk) 18:20, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
How about this? ALT2 "... that Lt. Gen. Wang Bingzhang (pictured) was purged in 1971 due to the "Lin Biao incident"?" --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 02:59, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
That works too, but gives no indication of the significance of Wang's positions. -Zanhe (talk) 18:23, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 8[edit]

Sainte-Anne Hospital Center

Sainte-Anne hospital in a 1672 site plan
Sainte-Anne hospital in a 1672 site plan
  • ... that Sainte-Anne Hospital Center, which in the 17th century was a farm worked by insane patients, is today a modern hospital in Paris specializing in psychiatry, neurology, neurosurgery, neuroimaging, and addiction?

Created by Robert K S (talk). Self-nominated at 07:26, 8 February 2018 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Substantial article, but would need many more inline citations. The rule of thumb says one inline citation per paragraph. I also wonder about the name, which is a mixture of French and English. We should not invent names, - is there an English source for this name? If not, perhaps better stick with the French. Should Centre be capital? - I like the original hook much better, referring to the unique history. I delinked Paris, - current capitals and countries are typically not linked. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:17, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
There is no official English rendering of the name of this hospital. In most of the English-language literature it is referred to as "Sainte-Anne Hospital" but that is with reference to the institution as it existed in the 1950s, e.g., before it took on its modern name including the word "Center". In the French version of the name, Centre would not be capitalized unless at the start of a sentence (similar to rue, which is always rendered capitalized in English but never in French). To switch from "Sainte-Anne" to "Saint Anne" or "St. Anne" would I believe be one step too far as it would corrupt the proper-noun portion of the name of the institution. Given all of the above I believe that "Sainte-Anne Hospital Center" should be the preferred way to refer to the present-day incarnation of the institution in English. (Google shows many usages of this rendering of the name. [3]) Robert K S (talk) 19:32, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Taken, now refs please ;) - The image is licensed but doesn't show too well in that size. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Robert K S, Gerda Arendt, it's been a month and a half since this was nominated and the above posts made. Where do the article and nomination currently stand? BlueMoonset (talk) 03:15, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
In my opinion the article is in as good shape as any translated article posted to DYK and is ready for posting. A DYK article is not intended to be a Good Article. To the contrary, DYK posting is designed not only as trivia to interest Main Page readers but as a way of attracting editors to new articles that could use improvement. I don't think there are any significant problems with sourcing in the article overall; there are plenty of references and at most what Gerda seems to want is to have the sources duplicated as footnotes all over the page. That's fine, it can be done, but I will not be expending the work to do it just to have this article become a DYK article, because that is busywork. Advance the article to DYK status or don't, but don't exclude it on the basis that it's not, by some standards, in perfect shape yet, because rewarding perfect articles is not the point of DYK. Robert K S (talk) 18:53, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Sadly, it's not so much your opinion that counts but DYK rules, and they request inline citations. My suggestion: write a short article with such referencing on something related, - a doctor, an architect, find something, - and mention the hospital in a hook for that something. - I had the same situation - translated, no inline citations - with my second article, Siegfried Palm, in 2009. I didn't rest until I had it referenced ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:58, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Gerda may want to review DYK eligibility criteria, which does not require inline citations for every single statement in the article, but rather, only that the facts in the hook be so cited. Robert K S (talk) 19:05, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
It says there that we have Supplementary guidelines, which request under D2: "The article in general should use inline, cited sources. A rule of thumb is one inline citation per paragraph, excluding the lead, plot summaries, and paragraphs which summarize other cited content." Please also see D3 and further. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:19, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Cool. "Should" is a great word. But it doesn't mean "must, in order to qualify for DYK promotion". Let's not forget the purposes of DYK, which are not the same as Good Article or Featured Article. Robert K S (talk) 20:01, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Robert K S, your idea of what makes a DYK article does not jibe with the actual DYK criteria, as reviewers have been trying to tell you in this nomination and elsewhere. This isn't even close to GA quality, so I'm not sure why you're invoking that process here, unless it's that becoming a GA is an alternative path to qualify for DYK. The article has a dearth of inline source citations; indeed, it is so sparsely cited (only four of nineteen paragraphs have citations) that no knowledgeable DYK reviewer would pass it. (I've just added a template to the article indicating that more citations are needed.) BlueMoonset (talk) 22:20, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Relax. This isn't personal. Robert K S (talk) 14:54, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg It has been another seven days without any further edits to the article to improve the inline source citations as required for DYK. Marking nomination for closure as unsuccessful, though if the needed citations are added before this closes, the review can continue. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:43, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 24[edit]

An Wasserflüssen Babylon

Copy of Reincken's work by Bach
Copy of Reincken's work by Bach
  • Reviewed: to come Hans Klumbach
  • Comment: ..., which is one of two of his oldest manuscripts, found again in 2005/06[5] - there's plenty of news. We don't see a thing on the image but is RARE ;) - We just had Innocent Victims where we also didn't see a thing.

Converted from a redirect by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:22, 3 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Most everything looks good (long enough, timing fits, no copyvio, neutral, interesting hook--and cool image to go with!), just needs a QPQ and then(ETA: done!) ideally an update of the references in the entry to confirm the hook? Given image, it seems like they almost certainly exist; but at the moment that specific sentence has a "not in citation given" flag that's probably worth reconciling before moving the DYK forward. Innisfree987 (talk) 19:20, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
It took me a while to read the article ;) - When I nominated, it was a short little thing. I managed to review. What's not in the citation seems to be the exact year, but "as a boy" should be sourced. Perhaps you can tell the two experts what you like and what not, better than I could? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for having a look Gerda Arendt! Indeed this is well outside my own expertise; I just clicked through to the link to check, and as best I can tell, I don't see the bit about copying the manuscript in those Programme Notes? I mean obviously he did or you wouldn't have an image of it, but would you mind either pointing out to me the part that says that, which I'm just misunderstanding/overlooking (highly likely), or suggest a different source we can use as the reference, just so we can remove that flag? I wouldn't be concerned except for it being the hook. Thanks! Innisfree987 (talk) 22:06, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
I found this but don't know what the experts will think. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
I've just found a book ref as well. Mathsci and Francis Schonken, does one or both of these seem reliable to you? Any other comments before the DYK goes forward? Thanks for having a look! Innisfree987 (talk) 22:32, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg the article is unstable, and needs considerable work. The issue mentioned above was addressed by me on the talk page, Talk:An Wasserflüssen Babylon#Reincken/Bach stories involving "An Wasserflüssen Babylon", "1700" topic. Seems nor Gerda, nor anyone else, took the time to even look at it. All in all the article is a hack job (translated from German Wikipedia without adding proper references). The German Wikipedia article no longer carries "nach den Vorgaben Martin Bucers" (while unprovable by reliable sources) yet that phrase is still adopted in the English version without a source in sight that confirms it. Etc. – I could still go on for considerable time, but prefer to devote that to improving the article. --Francis Schonken (talk) 05:00, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback; yes by all means, focus on the entry as you wish! WP:VOLUNTEER and whatnot. Innisfree987 (talk) 18:23, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Francis Schonken's decision to remove any mention of Gerda's DYK hook in the lead was not helpful. Mathsci (talk) 22:09, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Never mind, the hook doesn't have to be in the lead. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
It was not in the main body. I have all the source material in the reference. Mathsci (talk) 22:57, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Re. "It was not in the main body" – incorrect, it has always been in the main body, in every version I've seen. --Francis Schonken (talk) 17:30, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Re. "... Francis Schonken's decision to remove any mention of Gerda's DYK hook in the lead ..." – incorrect, I didn't remove any mention of the hook from the lead. I take offence of Gerda Arendt's "Never mind" in their response to the false accusation: sort of shows they didn't check, though their "the hook doesn't have to be in the lead" is of course correct. --Francis Schonken (talk) 17:30, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
The source proposed above for the hook (www.thescrollensemble.com) doesn't really cover the hook. I discussed a better source on the article's talk page. For me, this confirms once more that people write here without really checking. Over-all the situation has hardly improved. Again, I could write a lot about aspects where the current version of the article fails, but prefer to improve rather than to write reams of text here. As for this DYK, with all these problems: hardly a good idea, so I continue to oppose until problems are really addressed. --Francis Schonken (talk) 17:30, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Noted and agreed again that spending your time improving the entry sounds like a wise choice. Innisfree987 (talk) 18:25, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
The suggestions here seem to be purely procedural. Consensus so far indicates that the article is fair at the moment. There will always be new perspectives on the content: since the topic concerns the Reformation—a very wide-ranging topic—that will always be the case. Looking at other Lutheran Hymns, the article here seems to be in a much better state than most articles of this kind. Vater unser im Himmelreich is comparable. Only a few articles on Lutheran articles to have been created at the moment to judge by Category:Lutheran_hymns. Mathsci (talk) 21:33, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Anyhow, with the new Beißwenger content ([6]), the hook as written can not be maintained. --Francis Schonken (talk) 07:28, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
The DYK hook still seems to be going smoothly, despite recent edits. On articles like Lutheran hymns, things go slowly by consensus. For example I created the "Hymn tune" on Vorbis-lilypond, choosing my own tempo and a cor anglais as instrument. I used that because soft reeds are usual registrations for this type of piece (as mentioned by organists like Stinson). It's not perfect, but OK for the moment. Mathsci (talk) 11:12, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
For clarity, "... which Bach copied as a boy ..." in the current hook proposal can not be said in Wikipedia's voice while at least one prominent Bach scholar (Beißwenger) doubts the contention (considers it at least unproven): what can not be said in Wikipedia's voice is unsuitable for a DYK hook (i.e. intended to be published on Wikipedia's mainspace). --Francis Schonken (talk) 11:29, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
I think that there are serious difficulties for two of the sources. Several Bach scholars, including some cited in reliable secondary sources, have given an informal description of the recent discoveries of Maul & Wollny. They certainly have given a reasonable informal account for a general readership. On the other hand the Bärenreiter Facsimile of 2006 and the encyclopedic tome "The Routledge Research Companion to Johann Sebastian Bach" by 2017 are intended for specialists, way beyond the competence of wikipedia: the first reference—which is only viewable in a non-borrowable music reference library—is at a graduate level; and the same is true of the Research Companion, "aimed at masters and doctoral students" and featuring a galaxy of specially chosen Bach scholars from all over the world. That level of expertise—e.g. deciding whether the handwriting of a relative can be identified with certainty—seems too technical for both sources; where something is too subtle, too ambiguous or just undecidable, only an informal "general readership" description can be given.
What Gerda suggested in the hook—perhaps with "youth" instead of "boy"—is appropriate. If a wikipedia article tries to be too technical, it cannot reasonably speak in "wikipedia's voice", whether the language is that of German, American/British or Esperanto (one of the three options for "An Wasserflüssen Babylon") ☺ Mathsci (talk) 14:20, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
I meant something different when I said "in Wikipedia's voice": I meant something that doesn't need WP:in-text attribution. If Kirsten Beißwenger, a leading Bach scholar, says something isn't proven, you can't take a stance as Wikipedia implying that it is proven. You can only quote the leading Bach scholars, such as Peter Wollny, who say that it is proven, with an in-text attribution to such scholars. And then quote the opposing view, with an in-text attribution to a leading scholar that says that it isn't proven (to keep within WP:NPOV). All of that is less suitable for a hook on the main page, and anyhow requires the current hook proposal to be rewritten. --Francis Schonken (talk) 19:46, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
There has been borderline edit-warring by Francis Schonken as he edit-wars in his preferred version of the lede. That does not represent "wikipedia's voice". Bach scholars have ascertained that BWV 653 was written in the period 1740–1750, in Bach's late maturity. That chronology conflicts with Francis Schonken's preferred lede: it is quite misleading for general readers. As a comic touch, in this edit[7] Francis Schonken wrote the edit summary Still incoherent, see talk. Those comments, however, were all written dictée by Francis Schonken. On this rare occasion, he seems to have been accurate. ☺ Mathsci (talk) 07:31, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Isn't this what is normally called "know all"?[8] Mathsci (talk) 08:09, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Remains to be done:
  • Address the issues of two banner tags in the article (lead section; history & context section)
  • Address the issues of seven in-line tags in the musical settings section (unless such minor tags are less a problem to go to the next phase of DYK)
  • Update DYK proposal (ALT text proposal; indicate correct source(s); update proposed image caption)
  • (don't know whether there are still other things to do)
I'd invite Gerda Arendt to take, if possible, an active role in sorting these last issues; at least, if their time is limited, indicate a direction for how to address the two banner issues at the article talk page (I fear neither is going to fall off the page automatically, and already spent more time than I should have in trying to get these issues sorted). --Francis Schonken (talk) 15:10, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment. User:Innisfree987 is an appropriate evaluator for the DYK and I would like to thank him for his comments which seem fair. I would also like to thank Gerda for initiating the DYK and for her offer to help me on the article. Gerda did that unprompted and it was kind of her to do so.
The hook seems fine. There is a problem, however, for the DYK image. The high resolution image from commons was uploaded a number of years back (2015), but the source is no longer available: it returns an error and I have been unable to locate the link. It is possible to give some kind of documentation for the source, but not necessarily on-line. The official documentation of Michael Maul and Peter Wollny, which needs to be verified, is a reference section available in a music library (in that case I used the Anderson Room in the University Library, Cambridge) but is not available on-line. The bare link to the 2006 publication of Bärenreiter Verlag is available, but that does not seem to be enough at the moment. Mathsci (talk) 06:52, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, both. I suggest that we focus on the hymn and its creation, and mention only what is certain about Reincken and Bach? We need to work on the Bucer thing then, but can move details on Reincken to his bio, and details on Bach to Orgelbüchlein? Sorry that I was not more helpful, but in March, I focus on women, Passion and Easter. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:24, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
I agree with Gerda. Bucer is not relevant here, nor any wikipedia "hack work", nor any of the original organ works by Bach, such as Great Eighteen Chorale Preludes (BWV 653 from "An Wasserflüssen Babylon"). Only the copying of Reincken's chorale prelude when Bach was a teenager are important for this DYK hook. The image, however, has not been properly sourced on Commons: I know how to rectify that but it will take a day or so. Mathsci (talk) 19:01, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Excellent, that all sounds completely appropriate to me, and the effort is much appreciated! Just drop me a ping when I should have another look. Thank you all! Innisfree987 (talk) 19:04, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
I have found a properly sourced image on Commons now available on Bärenreiter Verlag. The image was in the "extras" section of the facsimile. See File:ReinckenAnWasser.jpg for the links there. Mathsci (talk) 20:42, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
In the hook, perhaps we should say "young man" or "teenager", instead of boy? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
"young musician" seems like the best description, given the context. Mathsci (talk) 20:07, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • As mentioned on the user talk page of Gerda Arendt, the current lead follows the same spirit as Gerda's DYK hook. One of the sentence is essentially adapted from Gerda, with some tweaks by several other users:
"The arrangements of "An Wasserflüssen Babylon" by Reincken and Pachelbel—along with the chorale prelude "Nun freut euch, lieben Christen g’mein," BuxWV 210 by Dietrich Buxtehude—comprise the earliest extant transcriptions of Bach, copied on a 1700 organ tablature in Lüneberg when he has still a youth; remarkably, they were only unearthed in Weimar in 2005."
Gerda seemed happy with that and wrote "Thank you!" Mathsci (talk) 06:14, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 26[edit]

Isabelle Druet

  • Reviewed: Stanley Gelbier
  • Comment: a bit of a rush job, trimming to only sourced, and I didn't get to the recordings.

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 15:54, 2 March 2018 (UTC).

I'm nor sure what you mean about "I didn't get to the recordings." Did you refer to the discography of the artists (like those provided by Discogs, AllMusic and their ilk or other links to YouTube or Dailymotion, which I thought should be used with parcimony?LouisAlain (talk) 22:24, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
I was rushing to rehearsal. For DYK, inline citations are needed, - a match/connection of what disdcogs says and the list, for example. Will do, but not now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg New, in time, long enough, sourced, inline hook citations check out, no apparent copyvios, QPQ done. Gerda Arendt, the hook feels like a bunch of facts slapped together, could you condense it a bit or suggest others? Omitting the reference to Concepción might help, or combining it with the last part (recording of L'heure espagnole), as they appear to be related. --Usernameunique (talk) 21:46, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
I thought we should explain the lesser known work, but here you go:
ALT1: ... that the French mezzo-soprano Isabelle Druet performed as Carmen in Nancy and Düsseldorf, and appeared as Concepción on stage in Lyon, and on a recording? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt, I was thinking of something along the lines of:
ALT2: that the French mezzo-soprano Isabelle Druet performed as Carmen in Nancy and Düsseldorf, and was recorded in Ravel's L'heure espagnole on stage in Lyon? --Usernameunique (talk) 22:05, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Nice try. For some reason, we seem to say "she recorded", never "she was recorded". In your wording, that could be some minor role, everybody knows "important female character" for Carmen ;)
ALT3: ... that the French mezzo-soprano Isabelle Druet performed as Carmen in Nancy and Düsseldorf, and as Puccini's Ciesca at the Paris Opera? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Rather than a list of roles and performances, how about something unusual, such as the fact that she co-founded a theatre company in 2000 when she was in her early 20s (since she was born in September 1979, she was either 20 or 21 at the time, and it's still in business today) and then went on to become a successful Carmen? (The co-founding—not founding—of "La Carotte" would need to be sourced, but that's easily done, though the description of their genres should also be verifiable.) Perhaps something like:
  • ALT4: ... that Isabelle Druet co-founded a French theatre company soon after turning 20, and later performed many mezzo-soprano opera roles, including Carmen in Nancy and Düsseldorf?
I've heard Druet in concert with Le Poème Harmonique—she's quite good—and I'm very surprised to see no mention of her work with them in the article, even though they account for 40% of her listed discography. Indeed, the article is clearly unbalanced since it makes no mention of her career outside of opera, and as over half her discography is non-opera, this is a significant part of her singing career. The article is also awfully close in tone to an artist's concert bio. Can it be made more encyclopedic, perhaps? BlueMoonset (talk) 17:08, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
It could, but by whom. It was translated from French, - I thought it was interesting enough for DYK, but reduced things I couldn't find sources for. - I have other to-do, especially now that March is over. How about you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:38, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt, it's your nomination. I'm afraid I don't have the time myself. You can work on this one, or you can work on others. It's your choice, naturally, but this one needs more if it's to qualify for DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:46, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
Repeating: it's my nomination. I noticed a great woman, about whom I knew nothing, and trimmed the article to match requirements. Her concerts and recordings are in hidden text, but lack citations. - The article is higher standard than some others of mine that "make it". You, however, heard her, so I dared to ask if your urge to improve might be higher than mine. I have a GA on hold, that I don't get to (soon( enough (see my talk), and it's a topic dear to my heart. There's real life also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:15, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 27[edit]

Clarinet Sonata (Ries)

Created/expanded by Graham1973 (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 07:08, 4 March 2018 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. Why is Hill 1982 not used? - I did some formatting, please check. - The hook is not the most interesting, and the fact should be stated in the lead, where "violin" is not even mentioned, and/or and infobox, compare Clarinet Sonatas (Brahms). Other ideas? Cadenza, which is unusual for a sonata? - Side note: the navbox is called Duo Sonatas, and while I know that there are others, "Duo" seems to be the default for Sonatas. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:41, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: I came across this article when doing new page patrolling and I know nothing on the topic. It seemed interesting to me that a clarinet sonata could be transcribed for a violin, hence the hook. I have expanded the lead section slightly but I do not wish to add a navbox. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:14, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
I hope I won't disappoint you too much but being transcribed for violin is very common for sonatas for more unusual instruments, nothing specific to this piece. If nothing can be found I'll approve it, but let's try first, - perhaps the cadenza line, which is common in a concerto, but - afaik - not in a sonata? - Not sure what you mean about no navbox, - there is a navbox at the bottom, - also nothing specific to this piece, and with a strange title, - sonatas are duos unless otherwise noted. The section "Instrumentation" is not needed because that's the default. (But if we drop it we may get too short for DYK.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:40, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
It's not my article. The creator may not want it at DYK for all I know, and I am not going to start mucking the article around. I thought the hook fact interesting, you obviously don't, so we are a bit stuck. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:22, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Graham1973, what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:24, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Alfred White Franklin

  • ... that English paediatrician Alfred White Franklin compared the perpetrators of child abuse to sufferers from leprosy and venereal disease. Source: "Franklin argued that perpetrators of child abuse could only be stopped if like sufferers from leprosy and venereal disease in the past, society allowed them to come into the open."[10]

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 20:35, 3 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This is my first QPQ, but as far as I can tell, the following: The article was definitely long enough by about five times. I added the missing source and citation to the hook, and the source is correctly cited inline. Article is neutral. The hook is borderline too negative, but trying to make it a bit more positive ends up making the hook too long. Ran Earwig. One of the sources needs a touch of editing for close paraphrasing: [11]. A small copy edit might be in order, but not sure about doing it myself since it's my first QPQ. Editing suggestions: Obtain ISBNs for the books in Authored and Edited sections. Worldcat is great for that. https://www.worldcat.org/. The Later life and Family sections are very short. Suggest combining and renaming to Personal life or similar heading. Also, they completed their QPQ. Another editor might review due to this being my first QPQ.
  • Additional comment. I was mistakenly under the impression that one needed to add the bit that I added to the hook in the template. The source text and citation URL. However, further reviewing led me to this comment in a new, unused template. "Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)". I concur with the template that it is strongly advised and helps the reviewer, but it is not a requirement. I will also add that the reviewer must still be able to verify in the article that the source content is present, distinctly supports the hook, and is cited by the source with an inline citation. This DYK clearly does. My bad, first QPQ. dawnleelynn(talk) 03:56, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the detailed review. One section merged. Last seems to fulfill a useful function in concluding the article. Working on the paraphrasing. I think the ISBNs might have to wait. The hook is a little provocative it's true but it accurately states his views that child abusers were themselves suffering from some sort of disorder that required treatment. More on the rest soon. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:02, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • I just helped my mentor with adding some ISBNs to her article so it was on my mind. However, looking at policy, I find it takes some consideration to decide if to add an ISBN to a book and which one if so; it's not just a simple case of adding them. See WP:MOS-BIBLIO the section titled ISBNs. So yes, it can wait, it was just a suggestion. Regarding the hook, it accurately states that Franklin compared child abusers to the sufferers of two illnesses. Anything else is conjecture. The means of comparison and the hope for stopping child abusers by letting them into the open is not in the hook. I will consider this a bit more or ask a more experienced reviewer as part of the DYK criteria is the hook not be too negative. Thanks for your input. dawnleelynn(talk) 17:31, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

@Cwmhiraeth: Hi, what's up. I'm in my first QPQ, and I could use an opinion from such an expert reviewer as yourself on the hook. It's pretty much explained in the above comments what the deal is. In light of the comments above, let me know if you feel the hook needs a little bit of lightening up, and if so, how that might be done. I haven't been able to come up with a change to the original hook or an alternate that isn't too long. Your help much appreciated. dawnleelynn(talk) 21:22, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

  • Could you explain please in what way you feel it is too negative? It is eye-catching certainly but was not intended to criticise anyone. He did make exactly that comparison and it is not intended as any criticism of him that he did so. It's also sourced. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:49, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Sure. As stated above, the hook only states a comparison between child abusers and sufferers of two illnesses. Child abusers are like lepers and those with VD. We don't know what the comparison is. The rest is left out, the hope for stopping the abuse by letting them out in the open. As you said, the article states his comparison is based on his views that they were all suffering from a disorder that required treatment. But that is not in the hook. How are they like them? Why do I care? What does this comparison accomplish? Being able to add in a bit about how the comparison makes a difference could lighten it up. At least explain what is being compared. Otherwise, it sounds slightly negative because it's just a statement that three negative things all compare together, with no solution or hope or end game. Does that help? dawnleelynn(talk) 22:25, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • OK, but that was really the point. The rules say "Interesting hooks will often include one or more of the following: An unlikely juxtaposition. A tease, giving only part of the relevant information." It isn't always possible or desirable to explain everything in the space allowed but I will look at it again. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:31, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • I understand your points. But I had already said I was turning this over to someone with experience who is listed as DYK personnel. I think we should let Cwmhiraeth take a look now. I am not going to weigh in on this anymore. It is my first QPQ, I did make that clear. Also, my mentor agreed with me. Thank you though. dawnleelynn(talk) 22:39, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: Hi Yoninah, could you take a look at this issue regarding the hook please? I pinged Cwmhiraeth yesterday because they appear on the DYK page of users that are formally listed to answer questions and review nominations, etc. But they don't appear to be active since yesterday morning. You are the only other editor I know, and you are super knowledgeable and above reproach. I have come to trust your ability here 100%. If you read through the comments above on the hook, it will explain the issue. I would accept your recommendation without question. This editor deserves a better answer than I can give. After all, it's my first QPQ. The only other thing holding up my approval is the issue with close paraphrasing.
  • Belated response, I've been away. I don't find the hook accurate. The comparison concerns the necessity for child abusers to be accepted by society as are lepers and those with venereal disease, in order for them to be treated appropriately. Can yiou find a better hook? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:23, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
In what respect is the hook inaccurate please? Here is the quote from Franklin in the source which is also visible online:

The second step is to alter the outlook of neighbors, encouraging them to regard child abuse as the result of mental illness in parents who were themselves emotionally deprived if not abused in their own childhood. The parents need help when they feel the compulsion to attack their child, but, sharing our horror, they hide and so at present the diagnosis is not made until one child has died or been gravely damaged. Only when neighbors, lay and professional, substitute compassion for horror is there a chance to save the first child from harm and the parents from being enmeshed in further emotional tangles by the realization that they have damaged their own child. Our compassion can be evoked once we realize how seriously deprived and damaged these parents must themselves have been in their own childhood. In times past, two sad sets of patients were isolated from the community by similar horror - lepers and sufferers from venereal disease. We now view leprosy as just another infection, responding best to early treatment, and venereal disease as an unlucky (but likely enough) accident in an amoral permissive society. Only when the compassion of society allowed these sufferers to come out into the open could treatment be effective and future generations protected. So it is with child abuse.

Philafrenzy (talk) 09:17, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 3[edit]

Endsleigh Gardens

Hannah Dobbs
Hannah Dobbs
  • ... that Endsleigh Gardens was originally part of Euston Square, but was renamed following a "gruesome murder"?
  • Alt1... that in 1878, Endsleigh Gardens was the scene of a murder for which Hannah Dobbs (pictured) was acquitted at the Old Bailey?

Created by Edwardx (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 23:35, 11 March 2018 (UTC).

COMMENT: @Philafrenzy: the hook is ambiguous, maybe even to the point of being misleading. It was named following the murder, not named after as in given the same name as. Umimmak (talk) 23:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, Umimmak. Agreed, hook reworded accordingly. Edwardx (talk) 23:54, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Gruesome murder put in quotes as it is. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:36, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed now that hook issues have been discussed. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:48, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Long enough. The DYK submission was made a day and half late, but personally I would be willing to overlook that. There is a citation needed template on the article which must be fixed before promotion. No copyvio detected, images properly licensed. Alt1 hook is ok, the first hook would be acceptable if "Euston Square" was changed to "part of Euston Square". I'm concerned with the general quality of the refs. I only did a small sample, but the results were mixed. Ref#1 does not have a named author, but it is on a university site so probably ok. Ref#2 is a ref to a book, but the information appears to have been taken from the publisher's advertising blurb rather than the book itself. At least, that's where the link goes and there are no page numbers cited. Ref#3 is a blog. Ref#4 checks out, but the cited sentence contradicts the lead. The article (and the source) say the whole square was renamed. The lead says the South side was renamed. Ref#9 goes to the promotional site for Friends House, apparently to verify the location of Friends House, but the word "Endsleigh" does not appear on the page. It gives the address as Euston Road, and that's putting aside the question of using a promotional site as a reliable source. I'm not seeing any contribution from either author on the page cited for QPQ. SpinningSpark 18:08, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

@Spinningspark: Thanks for the review. First hook struck as not needed. Regarding the refs:

  • I agree that Indiana University Bloomington is reliable despite not having a named author.
  • Ref 2 should be acceptable as a page from The History Press which is a reputable publisher.
  • The only function of Ref 3 appears to be so that we can use the quote "gruesome murder". The Alt can work without it and I take your point that it is a blog, however it is Senate House Library of the University of London (nearby) and can't all murders reasonably be described as "gruesome". There are no nice murders. Do you feel strongly about it?
  • Ref 4 replaced with a better source and wording amended accordingly.
  • By Ref 9 do you mean Ref 5 https://www.friendshouse.co.uk/ ? I have removed it as the fact was already supported by the Ordnance Survey map reference.

There is no requirement for the person who did the QPQ to have made any contribution to this article. The QPQ was a gift in consideration for helping out elsewhere. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:39, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

First of all, there is no indication from the reviewer either here or at the reviewed article that the review has been "donated". More importantly, the QPQ requirement is on the nominator of the article: " For every nomination you make you must review one other nomination (unrelated to you)‍" (my emphasis). I haven't done a new review, I'll wait till the QPQ issue is resolved first, but judging by your replies it looks like it still has problems. SpinningSpark 22:20, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Your italics, it just means that it's one for one, hence quid pro quo. If you check the edit history you will see that the review was added by Whispyhistory, unprompted, with the edit summary "(dyk qpq- gift to EdwardX)". It's not a trick to try to get out of doing one. Edwardx and I have done 100s, it was just a nice thought from another user. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:30, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Spinningspark, having an uninvolved editor donate a QPQ has been done many times in the past here at DYK. It is perfectly legitimate: so long as a full review has been done of another article, while the onus is on the nominator, someone else can volunteer to supply the needed QPQ in place of the nominator. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:24, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Bluemoonset, thanks for clarifying that. QPQ is all good now. It would have been clearer if the donation had been stated and linked to the edit summary that actually made the donation. I'll take another look at the article. SpinningSpark 08:10, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Still problematic
    • "gruesome murder". If this is in quotes, it must be attributed to someone and cited directly with an inline cite per WP:V. If it is not in quotes, it is being said in Wikipedia's voice and runs afoul of WP:WTW.
    • "The Ghosts of Senate House" ref is still a blog regardless of Sarah Sparkes' (the blogger) connection with Senate House Libraary. There is no evidence that Sparkes meets the expert requirement at WP:SPS. The strapline at the top of the page reads "apocryphal stories and the spirit of the place", to my mind, openly declaring itself to be non-RS. The page calls for ghost stories to be sent in, and many of the posts on the page are from authors other than Sparkes with no sign there has been any kind of editorial fact checking. The relevant post is not by Sparkes, but by Chris Josiffe who appears to be an undergraduate, again almost certainly not meeting WP:SPS.
    • On reflection, I accept the History Press source as being reliable, but only because it was written by Jan Bondeson himself, the author of the book being discussed, and he probably does meet WP:SPS. We do not normally accept publihser's blurbs as being reliable, no matter how notable the publishing house is. Basically, they are advertising and can't be relied on to be a true reflection of the book's content or all its nuances.
This will be my last review of this submission. Please do not ping me, if you need another review then wait for anouther reviewer. SpinningSpark 09:23, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg "Gruesome murder" replaced with just murder. Blog removed. New reviewer required for the final tick since everything else has been done as far as I can see. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:38, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 5[edit]

Group testing

  • ... that Group testing can be used for DNA sequencing, cryptography, machine learning and data forensics? Source: based on the 'Example applications' section.
    • ALT1:... that Group testing can be used to determine if data has been altered without storing any additional information? Source: this is the trust of the Data Forensics section, based on: Goodrich, Michael T.; Atallah, Mikhail J.; Tamassia, Roberto (7 June 2005). "Indexing information for data forensics". Applied Cryptography and Network Security. Springer Berlin Heidelberg: 206–221.

Improved to Good Article status by CheChe (talk). Self-nominated at 18:08, 9 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg - sourcing check, inline citations checks, Both hooks accepted. long enough, Improved to Good article status. Good 2 go.BabbaQ (talk) 18:05, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg Hi, I came to move this to queue, but I can't see which part of the article or the source confirms the hook? Please you can you clarify this? Thanks. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:50, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

@Ritchie333 No problem. The idea behind the hook is the subject of the data forensics section. Specifically, in the last paragraph we have: "In fact, the amount of hashes needed is so low that they, along with the testing matrix they refer to, can even be stored within the organisational structure of the data itself. This means that as far as memory is concerned we can perform the test 'for free'." The source is Goodrich et al. (2005) as cited in the article. –♫CheChe♫ talk 16:39, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
If this is not deemed satisfactory please use the first hook instead. –♫CheChe♫ talk 19:06, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 6[edit]

Mindy Alper

Created by Ringbang (talk) and Girona7 (talk). Nominated by Ringbang (talk) at 17:41, 8 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Comment I realize to be subjective: reading the article, I found myself wondering what Alper’s art itself is actually like. Entry has loads of great stuff about her training, places she’s exhibited, teaching she’s done, the film about her (well done!)—but just a handful of sentences about what art she’s produced. (This is also reflected in the lead, which indicates she’s known as a painter and sculptor, but doesn’t say what materials she works with, what school she belongs to if any, what themes she’s known for engaging, or other major identifying qualities for summarizing an artist’s work.) If secondary sources for this just aren’t available, I understand and will be happy to check this off as I think it meets the letter of the DYK criteria; but if it’s possible to add more about the substance of her artistic output before it goes out to DYK readers, I think that would make it much more useful. Let me know! Innisfree987 (talk) 21:17, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
Related: noticing lead says her media are painting and sculpture but infobox says drawing and sculpture—adding at least enough about the work to nail this down one way or another would be great. I’ll look for refs too. Innisfree987 (talk) 21:48, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg It has been over a month since the above, and I have just repinged nominator Ringbang's talk page. Perhaps Girona7 can help with Innisfree987's questions, and perhaps Innisfree987, who edited the article last week, can follow up here. Thanks to you all. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:33, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I added a bit to the entry about a month ago and then checked back on progress last week. I noticed meanwhile the creators were discussing proposing a different hook, so I was waiting to see where they landed on that. Innisfree987 (talk) 21:59, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi there. I'd be happy to help but at present I'm trying to deal with the fact that the image I procured for the article has hit a snag in terms of getting OTRS to accept the permission I obtained from the creator as valid. As soon as this is resolved I'd be happy to follow up on the possible DYK. Thanks for keeping this one alive! And more soon... Girona7 (talk) 02:01, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Mary A. Monroe

Created by Jwrosenzweig (talk). Self-nominated at 04:08, 13 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New, in time, long enough, sourced, inline hook citations check out, no apparent copyvios, QPQ done. Jwrosenzweig, could you think of some more hooks? However impressive being the first woman to serve in those roles is, it lacks meaning—and thus interest as a hook—when the organizations themselves, and their importance, require explanation. Few people will knows what the Washington Education Association and the State Normal School are; the former didn't even have an article until you created one. --Usernameunique (talk) 01:28, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the review....I'm a little stumped for hooks. If her being the first woman president of a statewide teachers' union or the first woman trustee for what is now a medium-sized regional public university are not sufficiently notable as hooks, I'm not really sure what would be relevant. I mean, she chased off a house burglar and she saw her local elementary school through rebuilding projects after two catastrophic fires, but it's hard to say why anyone would care about that if they don't care about her trailblazing work as a woman educator. I get that the WEA might not be a good hook since we (appallingly) have nothing about it but a stub I produced when I realized we had nothing at all. What if we relink it as Eastern Washington University in the ALT1 -- would piping the link like that seem more appealing? Jwrosenzweig (talk) 19:47, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
      • Sorry, we don't need to pipe that link -- the link was already piped. So I guess I'm just suggesting that we call it Eastern Washington University in the hook. Would that help you at all? Jwrosenzweig (talk) 19:49, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
  • ALT2: ... that Mary A. Monroe's first teaching job in Spokane, Washington, was in a school without running water, to which staff and students "waded through snow, mud, and water in rubber boots"? Yoninah (talk) 00:09, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 9[edit]

Flag of the British South Africa Company

Flag of the BSAC
Flag of the BSAC
  • Reviewed: Timothy Weah
  • Comment: I'd like to request that we use the flag.

Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 09:11, 10 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough and long enough, well cited, neutrally written, no copyvio found. The online reference says "The BSA Company's own flag had not been received from England...", and at the time "the UK" meant Great Britain and Ireland together and indeed is a term hardly ever used until much later, so I have taken the liberty of changing the hook to say England. Moonraker (talk) 10:42, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I have returned this nomination from q5 as the hook can't be confirmed from the supplied source, which doesn't say the flag "took two years to arrive in Rhodesia from England". Gatoclass (talk) 13:27, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
    • @Gatoclass: It does where it says that the Union Jack was raised in 1890 as the BSAC flag hadn't arrived and it was only raised for the first time in 1892. That is two years of waiting. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 06:04, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
The C of E, just to reply quickly to this, Rhodes set out in July 1890 and the flag was raised in 1892 - that might only be 18 months. Also, just because it wasn't "raised" until 1892 doesn't necessarily mean it took all that time to arrive - it might have just remained unpacked for a while. Gatoclass (talk) 16:18, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 11[edit]

Both Lives Matter

  • ... that Both Lives Matter ran an ad campaign in 2017 with two billboards featuring the headline: "100,000 people are alive today because of our laws on abortion. Why change that?" Source: [12]

Created by Birtig (talk) and Lionelt (talk). Nominated by Lionelt (talk) at 06:55, 18 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg While this is new enough and (just barely) long enough, when I have a look at some of the available sources not yet included in the entry, I became concerned this page may not yet treat the subject in a sufficiently neutral way (meaning, neutrally represents the balance of reliable sources) as to meet that DYK criterion. Other neutrality concerns have also been raised on the talk page. I would advise revision/expansion to settle these issues before pursuing DYK. (You may also wish to consider an alternative hook to be sure of clearing NPOV as well; perhaps instead something about their winning an award for the campaign, so as[Please see my follow-up below] to avoid reiterating a disputed claim in a space too small to allow contextualization.) Innisfree987 (talk) 07:04, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Don't know what you're talking about. The article mentions that (1) 14 complaints were lodged, and (2) that the name is a ripoff of Black Lives Matter. Sounds like the article was written in a NPOV manner to me. The "concern" you refer to on talk is no longer an issue. It was resolved via consensus. Anyway, this is a DYK afterall, and the article is a step above a stub. I'm sure there's no end to the amount of "available sources." But we're only given 7 days to put this thing together. Pinging the article creator @Birtig:Lionel(talk) 07:23, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Sure, it can be a stub but it also has to be neutral. So if a neutral treatment of a topic can’t be accomplished in the space of a stub, to me it doesn’t qualify. (As for timing the instructions do advise to create in sandbox if you’re not sure you’ll be able to do enough in time allotted.) Just for instance on missing pieces, I was quite surprised when I searched (the link in the ref is broken...) and learned the BLM criticism was about a good deal more than just the appropriation of the name. My concern regards whether relevant perspectives are sufficiently accounted for to qualify as a neutral report, given extent of controversy on the subject. But I don’t mind a bit if you request a fresh review; I’m just one editor. Cheers! Innisfree987 (talk) 07:42, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that Belfast pro-life group Both Lives Matter won the Northern Ireland Public Affairs Campaign of the Year for the "100,000" billboard campaign in its first year of operations?" Source:s "A Belfast-based pro-life group... won the Northern Ireland Public Affairs Campaign of the Year... We are stunned and delighted to have won best campaign in our first year." [13]
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Ready for a new reviewer. – Lionel(talk) 06:27, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Comment I’m sorry, I realize this hook was my suggestion but now reading a bit more into sources, I learned that actually there wasn’t any other campaign competing for the award... Had I known, I'm not sure I would have suggested the win as a good option for a fact not needing additional contextualization. The discovery also reinforces my concern the entry is not yet developed sufficiently to be confident it neutrally represents the "controversial" (source) subject. I've now added a couple things to address absences I've noticed so far, but there are a lot more sources I haven't examined.
I look forward to hearing what another/other editors think. Innisfree987 (talk) 22:55, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg @Lionelt: I will be happy to review this for you, the fact it may be controversial is irrelevant (as WP:NOTCENSORED attests). Before I give it the full review, a number of references need their publishers added. Please ping me when this is done so I can hopefully pass it. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 07:44, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Sayyidat Nisa al-Alamin

Created/expanded by Ali Ahwazi (talk). Self-nominated at 10:27, 11 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen in online English-language sources. No QPQ needed for first-time nominator.
  • However, the article needs a copyedit for an English-language readership. It is unclear why the article begins with the section "Al-'Alamin" or what this section is coming to tell us. The rest of the writing is written in an unencyclopedic manner and is hard to understand, like:

Besides, it is quoted that Muhammad said “Fatimah is the leader of the ladies of paradise”, then it was asked of Imam Jafar al-Sadiq that “Is Fatimah the best lady of her time?” then he mentioned Mary as the best lady of her time, and Fatimah as the best lady of the paradise since start till end of the world. Meanwhile, many famous Shia scholars among Shaikh Tusi have quoted such high title(s) of Fatimah in their books.

  • I suggest you ask at WP:GOCE for help in bringing this article up to English-language standards. Yoninah (talk) 22:53, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
I reviewed the references a bit and it doesn't seem very satisfactory. Especially the Sunni section, it cherrypicks several opinions of individual Sunni scholars (who might not even use the exact term as far as I can see), and then use those to support the generic statement that "Sunni Islam considers Fatimah as Sayyidat Nisa al-Alamin". Many of the citation are primary (using primary texts from centuries ago) and might not necessarily reflect the opinion of the Sunni community as a whole. HaEr48 (talk) 07:04, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 12[edit]

Zavier Simpson

Zavier Simpson in 2018
Zavier Simpson in 2018
Zavier Simpson in 2018
Zavier Simpson in 2018
Zavier Simpson in 2017
Zavier Simpson in 2017
  • ... that point guard Zavier Simpson (pictured) had many of his highest scoring games as a sophomore against top-ten ranked opponents, including his two highest scoring games, which were against top-five opponents?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 03:26, 14 March 2018 (UTC).

  • It would not be wrong to say ALT1 ... that point guard Zavier Simpson (pictured) had many of his highest scoring games as a sophomore against top-ten ranked opponents, including his four highest scoring games, which were against top-five opponents?
  • TonyTheTiger, that shouldn't be an issue: the nomination page was created in plenty of time on March 14, the day after the article was created. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:40, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 14[edit]

Birgit Remmert

  • Reviewed: Shalimar Sharbatly
  • Comment: in Iokaste, it's also the only role, but that would probably too long to mention? It tells the story of Oedipus from her point of view, - in March if possible

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 13:24, 21 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New, in time, long enough, inline hook citations check out, no apparent copyvios, QPQ done. I've reworded the hook slightly. Gerda Arendt, the awards section should be cited. Also, that Penthesilea is a Greek tragedy is mentioned in neither the Remmert nor the Penthesilea article. --Usernameunique (talk) 07:11, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the review. Please don't change a hook, unless it's minor. This - sorry - is nonsense:
ALT1: ... that Birgit Remmert appeared in title roles of Schoeck's Greek tragedy turned into opera Penthesilea, and Iokaste, written for her?
There's no Schoeck's Greek tragedy, but two operatic roles derived from Greek tragedy mythology, Penthesilea and Iphigenia, by different composers, one little known, the other one unknown. Do we have to explain in an actor's article playing Julia that Romeo and Julia are lovers? How is this?
ALT2: ... that Birgit Remmert appeared in operatic title roles from Greek mythology, Schoeck's Penthesilea, and Iokaste, which Stefan Heucke composed for her?
I didn't know that Penthesilea wasn't in an ancient play, - always learning. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:03, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 15[edit]

SS Lakeland

The SS Lakeland sinking
The SS Lakeland sinking

Created/expanded by GreatLakesShips (talk). Self-nominated at 16:08, 22 March 2018 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - cited yes but reliability of [14] is not clear. You might want to look for contemporary newspaper or book sources instead. The Wikipedia Library offers access to databases such as Newspapers.com which contains a lot of old newspapers.
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg @GreatLakesShips: See comments above. Also,

Lakeland sinking.jpg

for the picture, File:Lakeland sinking.jpg might actually be better (see on the right), combined with a hook that talks about the sinking. Please ping me if you have addressed those problems. Regards SoWhy 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Body horror

  • Reviewed: This is my first nomination.
  • Comment: Article created in my userspace on March 1, moved to mainspace on March 15.

Created by Itherina (talk). Self-nominated at 02:34, 21 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen in online sources. I don't see the first hook fact in the article; could you point it out to me? I prefer the first hook over the others, which divert the focus to films rather than the target article.
  • Regarding the article: I added a few "citation needed" tags. I don't understand why you're listing writers, directors, and artists in separate sections, and also the names of pertinent works in separate sections, without any sourcing. These examples should be put into prose paragraphs in the relevant sections ("Examples of films in the body horror genre include ..."), with a citation at the end.
  • While the article is start-class, it reads like a series of snippets from various books and authors. I notice a talk-page suggestion for fleshing out the presentation under social and cultural influence. Do you have more to add to this?
  • No QPQ needed for first-time nominator. Yoninah (talk) 21:22, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello Yoninah. Thank you for your response! I'll go ahead and clarify a few of the questions you posted above.
  • First, the Mary Shelley hook is referenced across two separate sentences, which can be found in the first two sentences fiction subsection of History. I see how the second sentence doesn't necessarily clearly or plainly state that Science Fiction was created my her, but was instead only implied. I'm definitely happy to clarify these sentences if you agree it isn't particularly clear in order to make the hook more representative.
  • Second, the feedback regarding removing the bulleted lists in favor of narrative was also provided to me earlier within a wikipedia academic fellowship pilot I'm currently participating in, and will be edited soon to reflect the feedback received.
  • Finally, this article will be an ongoing project and will be receiving substantial edits and improvements in the future, especially within the history section and social/cultural areas suggested in the talk pages. This is also in part the result of the fellowship pilot which is helping involve academics in the wiki editing process, so many of my questionable choices within the article are definitely a reflection of my newness to the process and adjustment from academic to encyclopedic writing styles. Any feedback or further changes or edits are much welcomed! Thank you. Itherina (talk) 00:22, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Castillo de Coca

The Coca Castle at night
The Coca Castle at night
  • Reviewed: First DYK

Created by 2Joules (talk). Self-nominated at 07:11, 19 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @2Joules: This is a nice article on an important historic building. The article is new enough and long enough. The image is appropriately licensed, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. The hook facts need a citation at the end of the sentence. This is a requirement for DYK, and another requirement is that every paragraph has to have at least one reference. This applies to both the "History" section and the section "Locations open to tourist visit". When you have added these citations, I will be able to finish this review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:37, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

National Institute of Family and Life Advocates v. Becerra

5x expanded by Lionelt (talk) and Masem (talk). Nominated by Lionelt (talk) at 02:35, 16 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Comment: for the record @Masem: expanded – Lionel(talk) 02:37, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
  • This is not a review, but I don't think the hook is appropriate. The reason is that this is a very controversial issue (whether US laws on free speech allow anti-abortion groups to masquerade as abortion centers, or whether they can be forced to tell visitors how to find the real abortion centers) but the hook only contains some bland and euphemistic organization names. We should give the readers more of a hint at what issues this case is about and what these groups are fighting for. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:00, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
  • "anti-abortion groups to masquerade as abortion centers" Really? Look: I just want to get my 25 DYK Medal. I don't want a hook that is going to trigger a full blown RFC with every pro-life and pro-abortion editor weighing in and delay this 30 days. Thanks but no thanks. – Lionel(talk) 07:59, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
    • Phrase it however you like, but if you have to hide behind uninformative euphemisms rather than actually giving any hint of what it's about because you're afraid of the controversy that would be kicked up if you actually said what these groups are doing then it's not front-page material. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:53, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Compared to most of the hooks that have been on the Main page lately mine is just downright scintillating.– Lionel(talk) 06:22, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
And maybe you should look up the definition of "euphenism" because the names of the two organizations in the hook are accurate and descriptive.– Lionel(talk) 06:27, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I agree with David Eppstein that this hook really says nothing about the contents of the article. This is also not a full review, but I have given my comment an icon anyway as it fails rule 3a by not being interesting. Downright boring even. SpinningSpark 23:09, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Well aint this a hoot. Reviewers have been passing boring hooks for years--no make that decades--and all of a sudden my hook gets selected for extreme vetting? What's going on here??? Two weeks ago I hinted--just hinted mind you--that a hook was boring--and it was totally boring--and I was basically told to go screw myself. So I passed it. So why does my hook rate intense scrutiny??? Are we all of a sudden enforcing the "interesting hook" rule and what: noone sent me the memo? I checked my little notifications bell at the top of my browser. Nothing. Nada. – Lionel(talk) 14:12, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Workplace robotics safety

Drawing of a 1984 industrial robot accident
Drawing of a 1984 industrial robot accident
  • Reviewed: For first nomination, no review required.

Created by JC429618c (talk). Self-nominated at 19:26, 15 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg @JC429618c: I had begun a review for this hook, however... Before completing it, I consider it fair to note that the current hook may face quite a bit of trouble getting over the "interesting to a broad audience" aspect of the elegibility criteria. It seems, at least to me, that these injury types are fairly common in industry and happen even when there is no automated system involved.
I still think that there is potential in this topic. For example, take the case of the failsafe protocols that are applied to military robots and how the role of humans has decreased as the technology advanced (a piece about that can be seen here, but there are many others in relation to the purportedly probable "singularity"). Of course, this is just a suggestion; there might be other applications of these measures that could also serve to create an ALT hook, that don't involve the military or "killer robots". Once an adequate alternative is presented, I will review it accordingly. Old School WWC Fan (talk) 21:42, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Comment: Also of note is the broad definition of "workplace", the current revision emphasizes an industrial setting, but the title implies that the scope of the topic can include anything from that to the International Space Station. If the piece is only meant to discuss the risks of employing industrial robots, the article is in need of a new title. Old School WWC Fan (talk) 21:50, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
@Old School WWC Fan: Hi, I mentored User:JC429618c in writing this article. This article is about robots in the workplace, not military robots. It includes both traditional industrial robots and emerging technologies, as discussed in the background section, and most of the information is applicable to both; I've moved some text around a bit to make this clearer. At DYK, nominations are never failed for not being interesting enough; it's more important to make sure the hook fact is verified by the source. But here's another hook that night be more interesting. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 00:45, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that workplace robotics safety applies to both traditional industrial robots (pictured) and emerging technologies such as robotic exoskeletons and drone aircraft?
@John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): Thanks for the clarification. I will be providing a more complete review during the upcoming days. I also consider the ALT hook adequate. Old School WWC Fan (talk) 06:50, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Chinese characters for transcribing Slavonic

Chinese character representing an abbreviation of the word Christ
Chinese character representing an abbreviation of the word Christ
  • ... the Russian Orthodox Church created their own Chinese characters for translating religious texts?Source:One area where there was an acute need for special Hanzi characters was in the translation of liturgical texts into Chinese and Japanese. In order to accomplish this task for Chinese, Archimandrite Gurias (né Gregory Platonovich Karpov) , head of the 14th Russian Mission in Beijing, devised a series of Hanzi characters for representing syllable structures not found in Chinese.[17]

Created by Sfjyu (talk). Self-nominated at 10:16, 18 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Article does not meet the length requirements for DYK and fails 2a in the criteria. Currently it has 1,305 characters, but DYK requires there to be a minimum of 1,500 characters. The article also fails 4, because it does not have any in-line citations. I'd recommend that if you're still interested in having a DYK for this article, re-nominate after those basic concerns are addressed. Nomader (talk) 04:38, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Could be easily done - for example the article currently contains no dates. Were the characters used much? Johnbod (talk) 12:33, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Sure, it could easily be done but right now the article has no sources at all. It should be fixed and then re-nominated. Nomader (talk) 14:24, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
It can't be re-nominated because then it would not be new enough. It should be fixed, period. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:43, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
  • @Sfjyu: Do you have any sources that we could use to improve the article? I looked online but I came up dry (in a very cursory search, this definitely isn't my area of expertise). Nomader (talk) 19:25, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
    • Unfortunately, English-language sources for this obscure topic appear to be limited, so the majority of my info was from the Unicode proposal itself (included as an article reference but not cited in-line: [18]). The proposal's reference list only includes primary sources (religious texts in Chinese) which utilize the said characters. Sfjyu (talk) 20:29, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
      • I'll try to improve the article a bit more, update the citing, and see if I can get it into shape. Sfjyu (talk) 21:23, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
        • I've expanded this article a bit, improved the citation, and added an additional source, the official Unicode Standard this time. It undoubtedly could use more improvement, but I believe it meets at least the eligibility criteria now, so I'd like to open it up again for review and editting. Sfjyu (talk) 23:29, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
          • Thanks, Sfjyu! I'm going to ping WT:DYK for a second set of eyes to look at this-- I'm not sure if this still meets the requirements but if someone else thinks so I'll be good with it! Nomader (talk) 18:04, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
          • Just a note here that the article does meet the 1500 character requirement now. Nomader (talk) 18:05, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came here from the notice at WT:DYK. The article seems to be sourced primarily to footnote 1, but not all the information in the article can be found in the source. I removed a cite to footnote 2 which did not correspond to anything in the source. The entire chart, which is unsourced, seems to be drawn from the page creator's knowledge. Even if this is an obscure topic, it needs solid sourcing from two or three independent references to pass DYK. Yoninah (talk) 11:53, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Here's what I used source #2 (the Unicode Standard 10.0 doc) for:

  • The dates of Archmandrite Gurias' term as head of the Russian Mission (1858-1864).
  • These new characters represent syllables not found in Chinese.
  • The inclusion of these characters in v10.0 of the Unicode Standard. (It wasn't present in v9.0).

All info is found on page 684 of the document, which I'll cite below (relevant text bolded).

Han Ideographs for Slavonic Transcription. The URO includes twenty CJK Unified Ideographs, U+9FD6 through U+9FE9, which are used for transcribing Slavonic literary documents into Chinese. Renewed contact between the Russian and Chinese Empires from the 18th to the 20th centuries led to the translation of Slavonic literary documents into both classical and vernacular Chinese. The Russian Mission in Beijing was a driving force behind this effort, and many of these characters were coined by Archimandrite Gurias, who was the head of the 14th Russian Mission (1858–1864). Although some existing CJK Unified Ideographs can be used for transcribing Slavonic, these twenty characters are distinct. Many of these characters are unusual in that they represent syllables not usually found in Chinese.


As for the character chart, the characters, construction, Unicode codepoints, and the comments were drawn from the Unicode proposal document. I took the additional step of linkifying those to the corresponding Unicode pages and Wiktionary links. Sfjyu (talk) 21:08, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 17[edit]

Jamil Smith (journalist)

Smith in February 2018
Smith in February 2018

Created/expanded by Innisfree987 (talk) and (talk). Nominated by Innisfree987 (talk) at 00:45, 19 March 2018 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Other than those little points, it looks pretty good. I'd prefer ALT1 over ALT0. Regards SoWhy 18:29, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 18[edit]

Leucospermum cuneiforme

Leucospermum cuneiforme, Potberg
Leucospermum cuneiforme, Potberg
  • ... that Leucospermum cuneiforme (pictured) is known as luisiesbos ("lice bush") as its seed pods resemble lice? Source
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

5x expanded by Dwergenpaartje (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 12:20, 19 March 2018 (UTC).

NB: reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Eliezer Gruenbaum

  • I think I'd prefer a clarification that it is known as luisiesbos in Afrikaans, though.
  • Images appropriately licensed and hook image appears in article.
  • I think I'd appreciate a tighter crop just so the "lice-ness" can still be appreciated in such a small image, though.
  • (Binomen should be italicized in caption as well -- perhaps also have the genus abbreviated and I'm not sure if the location is needed for the DYK hook caption)
  • There are some long spans of text which only have a single reference which initially concerned me, however Earwig has 11.5%, which it classifies as "violation unlikely" and looking at Rourke and SANBI I don't think this is too closely-WP:PARAPHRASED. Ideally the promoter would take a second look just to confirm this judgement.
  • My main concern is that the second description paragraph lacks any citations whatsoever.
  • QPQ done
Symbol possible vote.svg Like I said, every paragraph needs at least one citation at minimum. Please also let me know your thoughts on a more tightly-cropped image and on explicitly mentioning Afrikaans in the hook. Umimmak (talk) 03:01, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
perhaps File:Leucospermum cuneiforme Potberg 04.jpg is better suited for the DYK; I have no problem with luisiesbos in Afrikaans, I've added two citations for the second Description section, although no additional information was taken from the second source.Dwergenpaartje (talk) 09:51, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
@Dwergenpaartje: Can you explain what you mean by although no additional information was taken from the second source? The footnotes should reflect the sources which were actually used to write a particular portion of the article. And since this is casliber's nomination I just want to see their responses to my questions/comment before approving, although I'm glad there are no longer unreferenced paragraphs. Umimmak (talk) 04:36, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Dwergenpaartje is the expert so will defer to his judgement on the sources. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:38, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
And regarding explicitly mentioning Afrikaans in the hook and an image which better shows the "liceness" at a small scale?? Umimmak (talk) 07:28, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

University of North Texas at Dallas College of Law

5x expanded by ErieSwiftByrd (talk). Self-nominated at 06:49, 19 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article was expanded from a redirect on the same day of nomination and meets requirements on length, neutrality, sourcing, and plagiarism. Hooks are sourced inline and short, but not particularly interesting to a broad audience. I think the ALT1 hook could be improved by mentioning that the college is located in a historic department store building, or the $1 purchase of the Dallas Municipal Building. QPQ not required. SounderBruce 01:32, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
  • I added a new hook that I agree might appeal to a broader audience. ErieSwiftByrd (talk) 19:33, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
  • the new hook is now under 200 characters. ErieSwiftByrd (talk) 23:36, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
  • It's still really wordy. You can drop the Titche-Goettinger Building entirely, since it isn't necessary to understand the $1 purchase of the Municipal Building. SounderBruce 23:58, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 19[edit]

Yaroslav Halan

  • ... that 11 hits with an axe led to the death of the Ukrainian writer Yaroslav Halan, who was killed for his sharp political pamphlets (pictured)? Source: "Ilariy Lukashevych [...] and Mykhailo Stakhur, a rank-and-filed OUN member, came to Halan's apartment, on the pretext that Halan would help Lukashevych gain admission to a forestry college. Stakhur hit Halan 11 times with an axe, and the pair fled." ([19])
  • Comment: Article published on March 19, 2018

Created by Катала (talk). Self-nominated at 23:43, 25 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Non-free content can only be used in the article namespace per WP:NFCC#9, so File:Yaroslav Halan's Body After Murder.jpg cannot be used on this page. I'm not sure whether the presence of an image affects a DYK nomination, but please use a freely licensed/public domain image instead if an image is required for nomination purposes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:19, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Sushil Siddharth

  • Reviewed: A Voz do Brasil
  • Comment: Also nominated for RD. Let's see what happens.

5x expanded by Skr15081997 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:30, 21 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is new and the topic interesting, and as far as I can discern it is not plagiarized; QPQ done and appears quite thorough and competent. However, the article needs copyediting for grammar: a necessary "the" is frequently dropped, the word order is strange at times (as in: "he and Ram Bahadur Mishra edited and published a quarterly Birwa dedicated to Awadhi language"), he died of "an heart attack", etc.; the style is also inconsistent, as italics are and aren't used for paper and journal titles; also, does one really use "served" to denote "worked for a magazine"? Other issues: what does "academic criticism" mean in this context? what are Spandan Samman and Madhuban Vyanga Shri Samman? must we have one-line sections (that are actually frowned upon by our Manual of Style), or could we possibly merge his career into one section? in "Maitreyi Pushpa was of the view that his talent could not be used correctly", what does "correctly" mean to say? The hook is also terribly not interesting, but rather the kind of generic polite stuff with a slight metaphorical twist that a writer would say about another, deceased, writer; I would think there's more potential of creating a hook from Maitreyi Pushpa's views, though I'm not sure I understand what she means, and the article would need to elaborate on that tidbit (an exact, lengthier quote from Pushpa?). Also note that the hook is ungrammatical: "satire was oxygen of" is incorrect; either use "was the oxygen" or go with the phrasing actually in the article -- "was oxygen in". Please consider this as purely constructive criticism, Dahn (talk) 13:25, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
  • The Spandan Samman and Madhuban Vyanga Shri Samman are literary awards. Rajkamal Prakashan and Kitabghar Prakashan are book publishing houses, so I haven't italicised their names. --Skr15081997 (talk) 14:18, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Well yes, but you should specify that in the article -- you could name the institutions not immediately apparent to clarify that they're publishing houses, and you could indicate who awards the Spandan Samman and Madhuban Vyanga Shri Samman (non-Indians and even some Indians presumably are left clueless as to what these things mean). Still waiting on grammatical corrections and clarifications of meaning, as well as the hook issue. Dahn (talk) 17:40, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Patrick Mayrhofer

Created by OwenBlacker (talk). Self-nominated at 22:37, 20 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Review:
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The original hook is my preferred option but at least needs rewording ("that is controlled to his nerve impulses"). Both ALT hooks are fine but less interesting violet/riga [talk] 18:07, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

@OwenBlacker: - are you planning to complete this nomination? violet/riga [talk] 07:40, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
@violet/riga: Sorry about that; I'd completely forgotten that I still had the QPQ outstanding and hadn't spotted that you had replied. Thanks for having {{ping}}ed me to bring it to my attention — I'll take a look over the weekend and {{ping}} you back. Thanks again! — OwenBlacker (talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 09:23, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
PS: I've never seen that use of <sub><sup> to make smaller middle-aligned text before. Nice effect! 😊
@violet/riga: I've tweaked the wording there — the change of "neural signals" to "nerve impulses" was me trying to simplify the wording of the hook. Is that better? (I'll go find one to QPQ now.) — OwenBlacker (talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 20:34, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
@OwenBlacker: Okay that works better. Delving into this a little further I'm not fully sure of the hook's claim. Examining the sources does not backup the claim "...first person in the world to get a bionic prosthesis that is controlled by his neural signals":
  • Article: "first patient in the world to undergo elective amputation and receive a bionic prosthesis"
  • MB: "first person worldwide to receive a bionic hand prosthesis"
  • DW: "Europe's first bionic hand" & "...a bionic hand powered by neural signals. The first man to get one..."
  • BBC: "Patrick was the first patient in the world to choose to have his hand amputated"
I therefore suggest the following ALT hooks:
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg We're going to need a third party to look over these now - may as well get that started while you work on the QPQ. violet/riga [talk] 21:35, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
@violet/riga: Oh, good spot; thank you. I definitely prefer ALT0a of those 3, as the neural signals part is just freaking cool. It could be worth adding a link to Neural engineering to ALT0a; ALT0b and ALT0c could link to Elective surgery and Amputation. I've completed the QPQ now, here. Thanks again! — OwenBlacker (talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 22:08, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Updates made to review and ALT0s. violet/riga [talk] 07:20, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Halcyon 6

Created/expanded by Zxcvbnm (talk). Self-nominated at 05:55, 19 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Note: As the nominator has less than 5 DYK credits, no QPQ needed. The QPQ submitted with this nomination was not a complete review. Aside from suggesting a better hook, your future reviews should explicitly confirm that the five main DYK criteria have been met. A convenient Reviewer's Template is located above the edit window. Yoninah (talk) 19:47, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 20[edit]

Sister Jean

Created by Jrh9 (talk), Lionelt (talk), and Hammersoft (talk). Nominated by Lionelt (talk) at 02:23, 27 March 2018 (UTC).


A sculpture of Graoully in Château du Haut-Kœnigsbourg
A sculpture of Graoully in Château du Haut-Kœnigsbourg
  • Reviewed: None. Not enough DYK credits

Created by 2Joules (talk). Self-nominated at 06:22, 24 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Good work on this! New and long enough, Earwig detects no copyvios, QPQ not needed. A couple of issues need to be dealt with. A few paragraphs are missing references. The hook should reflect that the creature and events are legendary. The image is a photograph of three-dimensional art, so we need to know when the sculpture was made, who the sculptor was, and where it was displayed. (France does not have freedom of panorama.) Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 02:15, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Fleurs de Marécage

  • Reviewed: I'm on it.

Created by Drmies (talk). Self-nominated at 01:47, 21 March 2018 (UTC).

  • @Drmies: Have you gotten a chance to do QPQ? The hook is also a bit long and unwieldy. Perhaps
Alt1 ... that Dutch poet J. Slauerhoff's Fleurs de Marécage was published with some new poems in French and some translated from Dutch?
Meanderingbartender (talk) 19:08, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 23[edit]

Phatik Chand (film)

  • ... that Phatik Chand (1983), the directorial debut movie of Sandip Ray, was based on a story written by his father Satyajit Ray? 1
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • Reviewed: Doing...

Created/expanded by Pinakpani (talk) and Titodutta (talk). Nominated by Titodutta (talk) at 21:42, 28 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg @Pinakpani and Titodutta:, the article is not long enough. It should be at least 1500 characters long (currently only 985 characters). Please expand the article to continue nomination at DYK and ping me back when it is ready. You can add sections on Production, Release, Reception, Themes, Awards etc. Reference style is inconsistent. The hook fact is not cited with an inline citation in the article. The article will need lot of work. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 20:36, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 24[edit]

Ayşe Sinirlioğlu

Source: "Turkey’s G20 Sherpa Ambassador Ayşe Sinirlioğlu addressed B20’s Inaugural Event Dinner" [23]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 10:13, 31 March 2018 (UTC).

Tyler Kinley

Converted from a redirect by Muboshgu (talk) and Malmmf (talk). Nominated by Muboshgu (talk) at 16:29, 28 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Converted redir with borrowed text that was sufficiently expanded, and nomination was on time. No neutrality or paraphrasing concerns. QPQ done. Some of the 2016–2017 team names were not verifiable based on existing cited sources. It would be preferable to have closer citations to the actual sentences, instead of bundling multiple sentences to the Washington Post and Star-Tribune sources. At a minimum, something like the MiLB profile could be cited to that whole bundle if you elect not to move citations around.—Bagumba (talk) 11:49, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
  • @Bagumba: I can fix that soon, but maybe not until Monday. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:48, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Oh poop I never fixed this did I? On it... – Muboshgu (talk) 19:30, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Bagumba: This should be fine now. I used the MiLB profile in an additional place. The WaPo (really AP) piece does convey some of the 2016 stats. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:36, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I did a copyedit to address remaining ref concerns with team names and wording about career stats. Your hooks are sourced OK. However, what would you consider 1) changing main hook to just "... is the great-great-great nephew of former U.S. President William McKinley?" (less verbose, minor WP:OVERLINK concerns for a hook) or ALT1 to "... surname from "McKinley" after the assassination of the 25th President of the United States?" (overlink of surname, less repetitious and more intrigue with not repeating "McKinley" and the president's name)?—Bagumba (talk) 08:23, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Bagumba: Kinley's, uh, performance tonight reminded me of his article. Thanks for the copy edit. I like the wordings you proposed better than what I put down there so I'm happy to change them. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:07, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Louise Mitchell

Moved to mainspace by Grangehilllover (talk). Nominated by Soaper1234 (talk) at 19:47, 29 March 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 25[edit]

Zeke Upshaw

  • ... that after playing sparingly with Illinois State, basketball player Zeke Upshaw transferred to Hofstra and led the Colonial Athletic Association in scoring? Source: "Upshaw elected to stay close to home after graduating from high school, but couldn’t crack the rotation in three years with the Redbirds, never averaging more than 7.4 minutes per game."[24] "With a degree in hand and one year left to play, Upshaw transferred to Hofstra to make something out of an ordinary career."[25] "He had averaged only 2.5 points in his senior year at Illinois State, but with a year of eligibility remaining, he became the Colonial Athletic Association’s leading scorer with a 19.8 average.[26]

Created by NBA Fan44 (talk) and Bagumba (talk). Nominated by Bagumba (talk) at 16:30, 1 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New and long enough, within policy, QPQ done, Earwig detects no copyvios. Hook checks out, but there are several more interesting facts in the article—the fact that he transferred to Hofstra after technically graduating from Illinois State, or the fact that he died suddenly at 26 after collapsing on the court. Maybe propose an extra hook or two? Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 05:09, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
    • @Antony-22: Thanks for your review. I'd avoid a hook on his death, as WP:DYKRULES discourages "hooks that focus unduly on negative aspects". I had considered a hook on his transferring as a grad student, but I thought it would be too nuanced for the majority of readers who know little about college sports in the US, and I couldn't come up with something that was accessible but not too verbose. If you have one in mind, feel free to suggest as an ALT1 and we can invite someone else to review. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 11:58, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Archery, Georgia

Jimmy Carter in 1937
Jimmy Carter in 1937
  • ... that U.S. President Jimmy Carter spent the majority of his childhood on a farm in Archery, Georgia?
    • ALT1:... that U.S. President Jimmy Carter grew up at Archery, Georgia on his family's farm from age four, in 1928, until he left for college in 1941?

Created by Gilliam (talk). Self-nominated at 04:33, 1 April 2018 (UTC).

  • New enough and long enough (barely), neutral and well cited. Hook is cited, verified, and meets requirements. No image to check. Article did have a stub tag which I removed. No other issues.
Symbol question.svg Will be good to go after QPQ review. MB 18:38, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Gosh, it's been years since I've done a DYK review. Please allow me some time.– Gilliam (talk) 04:43, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
I don't think that the article is correct. The coordinates given do not point to a railway station or any evidence of a town. Abductive (reasoning) 04:17, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Daroji Eramma

  • ... that Daroji Eramma, a performer of Burra katha, received the Karnataka Rajyotsava Award? 1
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Prm 1302 (talk) and Kannaki.deka (talk). Nominated by Titodutta (talk) at 21:19, 28 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg. The article is new and created by new editors. There article is few characters short of standard 1500 which can be fulfilled by converting Award section in prose. The article is underlinked. It also needs some reorganising, grammar corrections, removal of minor puffery. QPQ pending. Hook is OK but a hook about her memory (12 epics/7000 pages) can be more interesting.-Nizil (talk) 11:59, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you, will check --Titodutta (talk) 12:41, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
@Prm 1302, Kannaki.deka, and Titodutta:, its been a week almost. No edits or updates yet. Just a reminder.-Nizil (talk) 20:28, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
  •  Working --Titodutta (talk) 15:56, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
  • User:Nizil Shah, made some changes, IMHO, if we convert the award section to prose, there will be too many repetitions "she won this award" and "she won that award." I have added QPQ. --Titodutta (talk) 09:34, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
@Titodutta:, thank you for completing the copyediting. I think currently awards are present in all three sections with repetitions . They can be brought together in one section. The prose would make it represent better by referring who presented the award and when. Studies on her should not be under career section. Her lead section does not summarize the main text but includes some additional info. So please make a section titled Life followed by Recognition (which can also include studies on her). I also propose that the hook should point to some better info like her memory instead of an award because that will make more people to read about her. I have also found some additional information in references which can be included in the article. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 10:50, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
I have done some copyediting and some reorganisation. How does it look now? can you propose alternative hook?-Nizil (talk) 11:29, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Transcriptomics technologies

Improved to Good Article status by Rohan Lowe (talk) and Evolution and evolvability (talk). Nominated by Rohan Lowe (talk) at 00:19, 27 March 2018 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Promoted to GA Mar 26, 2018, nominated Mar 27, 2018. Length is good. Not a prior DYK. All main-text paragraphs cited, though the figures on Microarray and sequencing flow cell and Heatmap identification of gene co-expression patterns across different samples are uncited summaries of the text or another page. Made some minor copyedits. Neutral. Per Earwig's Copyvio Detector, 61.7% violation detected, but this refers to the Lowe R et al article in PLOS Computational Biology that this Wikipedia article was published under. However, per this source, there is a direct-quote copyvio in the lead. The hook (ALT0) is cited, interesting, correct per the source, and <200 characters. No pictures used. No QPQ required, as this is nominator's first DYK nomination. On a personal note, this is a very comprehensive (albeit technical) article, and it was a pleasure to read. My compliments to the authors. ―Biochemistry🙴 09:00, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 26[edit]

Oakley Street, Chelsea

Oakley Street
Oakley Street

* ... that during a 1970s miners' strike, the interior of David Bowie's four storey "sexual cocoon" Chelsea house (pictured) was painted black, so he could "understand what it would be like to live in a coalmine"?

  • ALT1... that during a miners' strike in the 1970s, David Bowie painted the inside of his house in Oakley Street black, so he could understand what it would be like to live in a coalmine?
  • Reviewed: not yet done, photograph of actual house coming soon

Created by Edwardx (talk), Philafrenzy (talk), and Proscribe (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 20:52, 1 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Comment only I have struck my original hook, as the ALT1 is better. Edwardx (talk) 11:14, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, striking the Alt as there are no strong sources for it, just a load of weak ones copying each other. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:03, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

ALT2... that Oscar Wilde, Robert Falcon Scott, David Bowie, and Bob Marley all lived in Oakley Street (pictured), Chelsea?

  • General eligiblity:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Green tickY

QPQ: ????
Overall: Symbol question.svg Interesting road. All appears good, copyvio <10%, sources all appear RS. Not sure about metro ref.19 but information is cited in biography ref 18. Checked all those people lived there. Just QPQ needed. Enjoyable read. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:38, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Note, London could be substituted for Chelsea. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:18, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Here's a different way of putting it:

ALT3... that Oscar Wilde, Robert Falcon Scott, David Bowie, and Bob Marley all lived in the same street?

Thanks for sorting and I like (ALT3) the idea of having to click on the same street to see street name. Just QPQ needed now then ok. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:17, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 27[edit]

Fallet Kevin

Created by BabbaQ (talk). Self-nominated at 17:30, 30 March 2018 (UTC).

  • I don't think that the word "murder" should appear in the hook since it has never been proved to be a murder, even though the brothers were coerced to confess to murder. cart-Talk 12:58, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
+1; this is an issue in our articles about killings that I have been pursuing for a while in discussions, and in how I name the articles I have created about such killings where no conviction for murder is currently valid.

Cart, I presume Swedish law makes the same distinction as American law: that "murder" is something only a trier of fact or guilty plea can determine; otherwise the event is a homicide? Daniel Case (talk) 05:13, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm no expert on the legalese in such cases, and everyday Swedish does not have as many nuanced word as English. In common-speak we call both "mord" but in court they different them into "mord" and "dråp"(archaic). In this case, an accident has not been ruled out; it is currently one of the foremost theories and the whole thing is usually just referred to as "the death of...". cart-Talk 10:45, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
OK, if it has not been settled we should go with "Death of ..." Daniel Case (talk) 06:53, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Jeju Oreum

  • ... that Jeju Oreum is an area of outstanding natural beauty in South Korea?

Created/expanded by Yeon So Jeong (talk) and Na Jieun (talk). Nominated by Yeon So Jeong (talk) at 08:06, 18 December 2017 (UTC).

  • Note: this nomination was not transcluded after it was created, but after being contacted a couple of days ago, nominator Yeon So Jeong has expressed a desire that it be revived, which typically DYK allows for untranscluded nominations. So even though this will be filed under 27 March 2018, the newness should be based on the original nomination date of 18 December 2017. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:31, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 29[edit]

Conflicts of interest in academic publishing

  • Comment: I don't think an image of a journal supplement would add much, but if we need images I could probably dig one up

Created by HLHJ (talk). Self-nominated at 23:59, 30 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New enough (created by HLHJ on 29 March 2018), long enough (17,394 characters "readable prose size"). The article still has three "citation needed tags" (D6) and references 7, 8, 9, 40 and 53 are bare URLs (D3). Main hook is no good; journal staff do not do the peer reviews. (This could be fixed by removing the last three words.) ALT1 okay. QPQ done. No need for an image. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:52, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, I'll fix the problems you mention as soon as I have time. Apologies for the poor hook, I obviously wasn't thinking. Another suggestion follows. HLHJ (talk) 20:09, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 30[edit]

Alonzo Ward Hotel

Alonzo Ward Hotel in 2015
Alonzo Ward Hotel in 2015
  • Reviewed: QPQ still to come

Moved to mainspace by Chris857 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:59, 1 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New, in time, long enough, sourced, one inline hook citation accepted AGF (paywall), no apparent copyvios. Chris857, QPQ needed, and the sentence beginning with "From 2002 through 2004" needs an inline citation. --Usernameunique (talk) 13:11, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Usernameunique: I'm finally back from traveling, and should get to the qpq review in the next few days. Chris857 (talk) 00:48, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Edmond Genet

Edmond Genet taken halfway through his training to become a fighter pilot
Edmond Genet taken halfway through his training to become a fighter pilot

Source:" ...he rounded out a brief but beautiful life and was the first American airman to fall in battle flying the Stars and Stripes." Second col [27] "Genet was the first American to be killed after the United States declared war upon Germany."[28]

"Edmond Genet deliberately deserted the United States navy, but he did so in order to enter a greater thing the war." page xviii [29]

  • Comment: Some sources are saying he was the first American. It might be true but safer to say he was the first flier.

5x expanded by Meanderingbartender (talk) and Danny (talk). Nominated by Meanderingbartender (talk) at 01:17, 31 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg 5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits. Images in article are freely licensed.
  • I don't think we should use the first hook, because his status is unclear. The secretary of the navy said he had un-deserted because he died in battle; that sounds strange to me. Also, the US hadn't even sent troops to fight, and here he's the first American who dies. I'm worried that someone is going to pounce on this hook at WP:ERRORS. Regarding ALT1, I don't see an inline cite for the fact that he "deserted".
  • I wonder if you could fashion something hookier around his dual allegiances, like the fact that he enlisted in the US Navy, fought for France, died as an American, and was buried in the French flag, or something like that (I read the article, but I'm still not clear on the sequence of events). Yoninah (talk) 22:19, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
I understand the hesitation with the first hook, however, it's already fairly hedged. He was unquestionably the first American flier to die. There's no evidence to suggest that any other American had died in the weeks following the declaration of war but there's still a possibility that one did die as there were thousands of Americans already fighting. Regarding alt1, it was the forward to the collection of letters and I added the inline reference. Genet considered himself a deserter as his family did. No formal charges were ever brought.
I've been trying to think of another hook but all are too long or convoluted. Thank you kindly. Meanderingbartender (talk) 19:35, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you for adding citations to the desertion section. But reading it over, it doesn't say outright that he deserted, just that he could be classified as a deserter, or that his actions could be considered treasonous. We have to be very clear here so we won't run into problems at WP:ERRORS or getting the hook pulled. Here is what I suggest:
  • ALT2: ... that Edmond Genet (pictured) joined the United States naval militia, fought for the French Foreign Legion, and became the first American casualty of World War I?
  • We would need a cite for the sentence Although other Americans had died as part of the Escadrille, he was the first one to do so after the US declaration, which made him the first official American casualty of the war, despite the fact that the US had not yet had time to organize or send any actual troops to Europe. Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
You are slightly too good at this Yoninah. I think ALT2 is great. I'll double check but I believe most of the references attached to "While Genet was not a member of the US military at the time.." should work. Meanderingbartender (talk) 21:33, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 1[edit]

Shmerke Kaczerginski

Created by Copper Dreamer (talk). Self-nominated at 19:11, 1 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Good topic and article eligible, but sentence needs clarification and specification. (When? Where?) Also needs source attached to nomination.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 14:38, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Copper Dreamer: Still needs to be a bit more specific. What country or countries of Europe? What format were the songs (sheet music? rare book collections? audio format? were they the only copies? Was this a one-time thing or did he save different songs many times? Did he just memorize them?) Also may want to describe who Shmerke Kaczerginski is. (perhaps start off with ...Shmerke Kaczerginski, a musician... or something like that.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 17:40, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
  • A mix of sheet music and having people sing to him, all over Europe. It's hard to both have a hyper-specific and descriptive sentence that simultaneously only uses one source; are composites from multiple sources acceptable? Copper Dreamer (talk) 18:53, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Of course! Both of the nominations I've written have two sources. Use the ALT2 template for the new re-write.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 19:12, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
  • The template to indicate the nomination is reworded and re-written.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 15:17, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Nicole Girard-Mangin

Nicole Girard-Mangin
Nicole Girard-Mangin
  • ... that Nicole Girard-Mangin was the first women doctor to become an officer in the French army and she was initally paid at the same rate as a nurse? Source: "...that would set her on course to becoming the first French woman doctor to attain a military rank"[30] On pay "... in terms of money and status she was only equivalent to a frontline nurse."[31]"

Created by Meanderingbartender (talk). Self-nominated at 21:26, 2 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg First nomination by nominator so QPQ not needed. Earwig found no significant copying. New enough, long enough, with an interesting hook. Well sourced, and hook sourcing verified. The image's claim to be PD appears valid. Good to go. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:08, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Poulsbo Bread

  • Reviewed: forthcoming

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 07:00, 1 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Page created on 1 April, meets required prose size and is well written and referenced. No copyvio concerns and the hook is interesting and inline sourced within the article. Once the user has submitted a QPQ review, this will be ready to go. Kosack (talk) 07:50, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 2[edit]

Mollie Lentaigne

Illustration of a Thiersch Graft by Mollie Lentaigne
Illustration of a Thiersch Graft by Mollie Lentaigne

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 09:28, 4 April 2018 (UTC).

Anatolie Popa

  • ... that, after being sentenced to death for resisting the Romanian military intervention, the Moldavian officer Anatolie Popa was pardoned and offered a position in the Romanian Army? Source: "After the occupation of Bessarabia by the Romanians, [Popa] was sentenced to death, but, in the hope of attracting him, King Ferdinand cancelled the sentence and invited him to enter the service of the Romanian army" in Nazaria 2012, p. 209 (originally in Romanian, translated by nominator)
    "given the tremendous authority of the Moldovan revolutionary officer among the masses, his professional qualities, the Romanian administration quashed the death sentence and invited Anatoly Vasilyevich [Popa] to transfer to the royal army." in Polivțev 2017, p. 388 (originally in Russian, translated by nominator)
  • Reviewed: Excepted, since it's my 2nd nomination

Created by Anonimu (talk). Self-nominated at 15:21, 2 April 2018 (UTC).

U Don't Know Me (Basement Jaxx song)

Created/expanded by Beyoncetan 2 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:49, 2 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Not giving this a full review but I will say that hook is completely unacceptable as it is a WP:BLP violation the way it is written and we definitely should not be using a picture of the Queen with it as the real Queen certainly did not do that. A new hook will be needed. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 22:53, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
I've fixed the hook. Beyoncetan 2 (talk) 23:13, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 3[edit]

2018–19 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Created by DetroitFan7 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:13, 9 April 2018 (UTC).

N.B.: This article was co-edited by User:TonyTheTiger.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:52, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 4[edit]

Gilmore the lion, Gilmore Oil Company

  • Reviewed: to be done.
  • Comment: The hook can be confirmed online at the Smithsonian. This is a double nomination and I plan further expansion of the two articles but this should do to get started.

Created by Andrew Davidson (talk) and Rmattconard (talk). Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk) at 23:05, 11 April 2018 (UTC).

Melinda Paulsen

  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:42, 11 April 2018 (UTC).

  • I will review this.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:12, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
  • New enough (one week).
  • Long enough.
  • Needs more in-line references.
  • To be continued...Zigzig20s (talk) 18:13, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
  • User:Gerda Arendt: You've reverted my edit because you think there isn't enough about her "early life", which is fair enough, but could you please in-line the reference at the end of each sentence? When you only add a reference at the end of the paragraph, nobody knows if the entire paragraph is referenced or only the last sentence.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:32, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Not even in a FA would I do that ;) - We need them only at the end of the sentence(s) for the hook, - please check the rules. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Right now it's impossible to know which reference tells us she graduated in 1988 and 1991 for example.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:41, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
You go to the next ref that comes, and find two, and it should be in both. - Only quotations require a citation right behind them, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:55, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
User:Gerda Arendt: I don't think the Bach Cantatas Website is a reliable source, is it? It looks like a personal fansite.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:28, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
It's not a fansite but the most detailed Website on the topic, quoted in books. In this article, it's there for readers who don't read German. It never supports a biographic fact alone. If you want to make life more difficult for people not reading German, put it to External links. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:32, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
The other reference does not mention Swarthmore College, does it?Zigzig20s (talk) 13:56, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
You are right, it caters for German readers who won't know that name. Found another ref, - it's in her standard bio, + no contentious fact anyway ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:12, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
This does not look like a reliable source either, and this one is not third-party, just an online store, isn't it?Zigzig20s (talk) 22:45, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
musicweb.international is highly respected (and we just had a hook about Julian podger, mentioning that same recording), and the other is a record publisher, and again: is there anything contentious about where she studied? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:57, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
  • The hook is fine. The only problem is that it's cited with her faculty webpage, instead of a truly third-party source. Are there not more sources about this woman in newspapers or books?Zigzig20s (talk) 00:00, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
Relatively young opera singers are not normally covered in books. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:57, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
The "first recording" is supported my the recordings. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg There's really a problem with references in this article. kuk-art.com is not an RS. Can you please find better references? I am happy to OK it once you have done that.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:19, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Do I understand right that you doubt the fact that she studied at Swarthmore College? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:47, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Just read what I wrote. kuk-art is not an RS. Can you not find one? It's OK to cite German newspapers if that's all you can find, as they would reliable third-party sources and most browsers will translate the text automatically.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:54, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, I just spent a few hours updating an article for Recent deaths. In comparison, this issue is of minor importance. I also have a GA nomination overdue. Please accept that it doesn't matter who says that she studied in Swarthmore if it's clear and uncontentious that she did, or wait. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:09, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Why doesn't her faculty webpage mention it? This is weird. It wouldn't be third party, but at least it would be reliable.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:14, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Read further up: "it caters for German readers who won't know that name". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:18, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Ocean City Life-Saving Station (New Jersey)

  • ... that the Ocean City Life-Saving Station began operations in 1886, and was owned by the United States Coast Guard until 1945 when it was sold to become a private residence? Source: [32] "The Ocean City Life-Saving Station was used as a coastal rescue station by the U.S. Life-Saving Service between 1886 and 1915... "It was then closed and turned over to the General Services Administration for disposal and was sold for use as a single-family residence in October 1945.

Created by Hurricanehink (talk). Self-nominated at 21:47, 4 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 5[edit]

Low Country Sound, RCA Studio A

Created/expanded by Sirsentence (talk) and SoWhy (talk). Nominated by SoWhy (talk) at 18:02, 5 April 2018 (UTC).

Issuf Sanon

Issuf Sanon
Issuf Sanon
  • ... that Issuf Sanon went from a locally unknown basketball player to a serious NBA draft prospect in just over a week? Source: "Sanon was virtually unknown even in Ukraine until last summer" ([33])
    • ALT1:... that appendix and ankle injuries, along with documentation issues, delayed Issuf Sanon from joining the Ukraine national basketball team? Source: "...he had never played with the junior national team due to a lack of official documentation as well as an ankle injury." ([34]), Source: "...Sanon, who was not with the 1999-born team at the U16 level in 2015 because of an appendix injury..." ([35])

5x expanded by TempleM (talk). Self-nominated at 22:13, 5 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg 5x expansion confirmed, the article is large enough and nomination was in time. There are sufficient inline citations, it's written neutrally, and there are no copyvio concerns. QPQ completed and image is OK. Some spot checks on content found a few issues:
    1. While the citation says his hometown was Donetsk, it doesn't say he was born there. Often, sports profile use hometown for where the player grew up, which could be different than his birthplace.
    2. The article says his mother is a "native of Donetsk", but I didn't find it in the citation.
  • Regarding the main hook, it says that Sanon was "locally unknown", but the citation says the he "was virtually unknown even in Ukraine". "Locally" seems too strong as it could be misinterpreted to mean even in his hometown. It's also seems unsupported that he is a "serious NBA draft prospect" and inconclusive that it happened in "in just over a week". Let me know if I missed something.
  • For ALT1, it is verifiable thought the citation, but I'm a bit skeptical about an "appendix injury"; it's possible but it would be a rarity, as opposed to something like appendicitis, which would not be an injury per se. It's also slightly dubious when the ESPN source mentions an ankle injury (more common) but not the "appendix injury". Perhaps we can just generalize it in the hook as "injuries"? Also, the hook links to Ukraine national basketball team, which is an article about the men's team. However, http://www.fiba.basketball under Events->Europe lists the U16 events under "BOYS", and the ESPN source refers to "junior national team": ... he had never played with the junior national team due to a lack of official documentation ... So it would be inappropriate to link to the men's article, but unlinked text to something like "Ukraine junior national team" would be OK.—Bagumba (talk) 08:10, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Bingo Bango

Created/expanded by Beyoncetan 2 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:34, 5 April 2018 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting track, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. I suggest you reword the hook to have Bingo Bango upfront, - readers who don't know group and members might lost interest before even getting there. I think it might be even more attractive that they closed live performances with the song. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:18, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 6[edit]

Vasiura Hryhoriy

  • ... that after the war Hryhoriy Vasiura, a Nazi-collaborator and executioner of Khatyn massacre, pretended a Red Army veteran and even instructed young Soviet pioneers in patriotism until being arrested in 1984? Source: ". Like many other collaborators, Vasiura passed himself off as a Soviet patriot who had fought the Germans as a connection officer at the front. As a veteran and supposed war hero, he even instructed young Soviet pioneers in patriotism." ([36])

Created by Катала (talk). Self-nominated at 16:31, 6 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Really needs grammar fixes. How about this?
ALT1... that after World War II Vasiura Hryhoriy, a Nazi-collaborator and executioner of Khatyn massacre, pretended to be a Red Army veteran and instructed young pioneers in patriotism until his arrest in 1984? Source: ". Like many other collaborators, Vasiura passed himself off as a Soviet patriot who had fought the Germans as a connection officer at the front. As a veteran and supposed war hero, he even instructed young Soviet pioneers in patriotism." ([37])

--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 19:01, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Yurika (musician)

  • ... that Japanese musician Yurika was inspired to become a singer for anime after hearing the song "Genesis of Aquarion" by Akino in a television commercial? Source: [38] "YURiKA:小学校6年生の時にAKINOさんが歌う「創聖のアクエリオン」(アニメ『創聖のアクエリオン』主題歌)がCMで流れていて。CMって普段なんとなく見てるじゃないですか。でもその時にサビの歌詞とメロディがドカンと来て。この数秒間でこんなに興味をそそられるのってアニソンしかない、とその時に思って。それで「歌手」というより「アニソンを歌う人」になりたいと決めてました。"

Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:47, 6 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 7[edit]

Stilt (ceramics)

Created by Geni (talk). Self-nominated at 14:14, 13 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg primary hook contains a redlink.
    • Primary hook sources are offline, source looks plausible, accepted under WP:AGF.
    • Article is long enough and new when nominated.
    • QPQ done.
    • Symbol question.svg ALT-1 is supported by a source, but it only indicates that one particular researcher has used stilts in this way, not that the practice is at all general.
    • ALT-2 accepted under AGF from offline sources (and I happen to know from personal experience thst it is accurate). However, ALT-2 is in my view not very interesting. I am adding an ALT-3
    • No copyvio issues.
    • Article is within policy and is well sourced with inline citations.
    • Not approved pending addressing of the issues noted above. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 20:11, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Noting in DYK policy says you can't have a red-link in the hook. 2 may not be the most interesting but given the likely confusion over the name its about the only way to avoid having issues with a misleading hook.©Geni (talk) 23:38, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Geni, Wikipedia:Did you know/Supplementary guidelines#Other supplementary rules for the hook says: "C1: No redlinks in the hook.". Why not leave "kiln furniture" in the hook but not wiki-link it? Or create kiln furniture as a stub? DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 00:33, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Blanche McVeigh

  • Reviewed: Charles P. Mattocks
  • Comment: This was a draft moved over a stub, expanding he stub by more than 5x. The stub was also less than a month old, and some text from the stub was merged in. Molly628 was the creator of the stub, SaturdayLibrarian was the creator of the draft, and I (DESiegel) polished the draft, accepted it, and did the merge.

5x expanded by SaturdayLibrarian (talk), DESiegel (talk), and Molly628 (talk). Nominated by DESiegel (talk) at 14:10, 8 April 2018 (UTC).

Benjamin Ladraa

Created by TheGracefulSlick (talk). Self-nominated at 00:30, 8 April 2018 (UTC).

The Man Who Made Husbands Jealous (film)

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 12:37, 7 April 2018 (UTC).

RFU Intermediate Cup

Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 08:20, 7 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 8[edit]

Mason Morgan

  • Reviewed: RedditGifts
  • Comment: Please feel free to tweak the hook, or suggest another.

Moved to mainspace by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:22, 10 April 2018 (UTC).

Nagi Yanagi

  • ... that as a child, Nagi Yanagi became interested in music after playing with an electronic keyboard her mother originally intended to throw away? Source: [39] "幼稚園の頃、近所の人が「捨てるつもりの電子オルガンがあるんだけど、誰かいる?」って言っていたのを聞いた母が、なぜかそれをもらってきちゃったのがきっかけです(笑)。"
    • ALT1:... that Japanese musician Nagi Yanagi was encouraged in junior high school to become a voice actress by a classmate, but declined because of her belief that her voice was "mediocre"? Source: [40] "中学時代、すごく特徴的ないい声をした声優志望の友達がいて、ずっとその声を聞いていたから「自分の声って平凡だな」っていう気がしていて。歌モノを投稿してみた理由も「がんばってオケを打ち込んだことだし、せっかくだから歌も入れてみようかな。歌うこと自体は好きだし」ってくらいのものだったから「あれっ!? 打ち込みよりも声に注目が集まってる」って感じではあったんですけど(笑)、やっぱりうれしかったですね。"
    • ALT2:... that Japanese singer Nagi Yanagi served as the music producer for the anime series Just Because!? Source: [41]

Improved to Good Article status by Juhachi (talk), Narutolovehinata5 (talk), and Msonnyandrean (talk). Nominated by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) at 23:51, 8 April 2018 (UTC).

Triangular corner flags in English football

Triangular corner flag
Triangular corner flag

Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 15:32, 8 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg A fairly interesting hook, but I have concerns about the notability of the topic: only the New York Times article appears to focus specifically on triangular corner flags, while the other sources only mention it in passing as part of wider coverage on the FA Cup. Honestly, I'm not sure if the topic is notable in the first place; I'll have to ask WP:FOOTBALL about this. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
  • It's not necessarily governed by WP:FOOTY as it isn't a player, club or league, it comes under WP:GNG. It's a part of English football culture and the sources do put predominant emphasis on the tradition despite the article may not be solely about them. For example, the Telegraph source is stating that AFC Wimbledon used triangle corner flags as they were claiming they were the true successors of Wimbledon and not MK Dons. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 07:39, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Considering Corner flag itself is not a separate article but a redirect, there might be something wrong with that assessment. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:18, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
This isn't predominatly about the flags, it is about the tradition and culture behind it. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 09:54, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Bertil Almgren, Oscar Almgren, Sune Lindqvist, Mårten Stenberger

Source: Gräslund 2012: It's in Swedish, but the relevant info (from paragraphs 2–4) is Google translated here

5x expanded by Usernameunique (talk). Self-nominated at 02:00, 8 April 2018 (UTC).

Oscar Almgren: "He was also the son of Bertil Almgren, ..."
Bertil Almgren: "Bertil Almgren was ... the son of Oscar Almgren, ..."
  • Symbol question.svg I see Oscar is elder than Bertil, so can you remove "He was also the son of Bertil Almgren, ..." in Oscar Almgren and replace it with the correct sentence? Hanamanteo (talk) 05:51, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

List of Casualty specials

Created by Soaper1234 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:43, 9 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 9[edit]

Report to the Secretary on the Acquiescence of This Government in the Murder of the Jews

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 04:46, 17 April 2018 (UTC).

Piano Quartets (Beethoven)

  • ... that Beethoven composed three Piano Quartets at age 15, which were published in reverse order after his death? Source: several
  • Reviewed: Bingo Bango
  • Comment: I began the article about just one, but the longer I wrote the more it seemed to make sense to deal with them together. Will add details about the other two. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:22, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:22, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I definitely agree these 3 should be in one article. I'm surprised there isn't one already, just goes to show Wikipedia work never ends :-) Although the article is important, long enough (4595), no copyvio [42], new enough (Apr 9), and properly referenced, I don't think it's quite ready yet for prime time until each quartet has it's own (short) description. I took the liberty of laying out the movements in sections just to frame it, and added a reference... hope I did it the way you prefer. I'll change review to green once you've updated them. Ultracobalt (talk) 06:43, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Oops forgot to add that the hook is just fine Ultracobalt (talk) 06:47, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
I agree but will travel for a week, and this seems not urgent, after all these centuries. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Indeed :) Ultracobalt (talk) 18:50, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

El Piñal

Created by Underbar dk (talk). Nominated by Zanhe (talk) at 05:18, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough and new enough. Generally within policy, no copyvio issue found, written in neutral manner, with citations. Spot checked one of the citations (Sousa Pinto) and it seems in line with the article. One paragraph in "background" is missing citation, please update. The size of the settlement is missing, how many Spaniards settled the port? (e.g. during initial establishment, or when it was finally evacuated), please include this in the article. QPQ looks okay. Regarding the hook, the article did not actually say that the settlement was attacked, only blockaded. Could you clarify? HaEr48 (talk) 01:42, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @HaEr48: I have added a cite to the paragraph. I have not been able to find any figures saying how many Spaniards were settled at the port at Pinal's establishment, though the number cannot be higher than the capacity of a 16th century Spanish carrack, since Zamudio only brought one ship. We also don't know how many people were left when the Spanish were chased away - but we know Luis Pérez Dasmariñas brought 120 men to Pinhal after encountering a storm, adding to the number Zamudio left behind in Pinhal. Whether the Portuguese actually attacked Pinhal is debatable: Sousa Pinto says the Portuguese did not attack Pinhal since it would enrage Chinese authorities closeby, and only attacked the Spanish at Lampacau (further away). _dk (talk) 03:57, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @HaEr48: Sources differ on whether El Piñal itself was attacked or not, see my discussion with Underbar dk on Talk:El Piñal. Therefore the hook only says the Spanish (I've changed "Spain" to the Spanish) were attacked (either at El Piñal or Lampacau), but the result was the same: they abandoned El Piñal. -Zanhe (talk) 04:19, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Underbar dk and Zanhe:: Well if they attack could have taken place when they were in Lampacau, saying that "abandoned El Piñal .. after they were attacked" wouldn't make sense or would be misleading. I suggest updating the blurb, e.g. "after meeting hostilities from the Portuguese" or "after opposition from the Portuguese". Better suggestions welcome. It seems undisputed that there were hostile response such as a blockade against El Piñal itself (CMIIW). Also, Underbar dk, if you have source on the number and type of ship that originally populated the settlement, could you mention that in the article? HaEr48 (talk) 05:23, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Well, the Portuguese waited for the Spanish ships to leave El Pinal and attacked them at the more remote Lampacau (in order not to upset the Chinese), resulting in Spain's abandonment of El Pinal. To me that makes perfect sense and is not misleading at all. -Zanhe (talk) 05:42, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
  • About the hook, I have no real preference one way or another, "after meeting hostilities from the Portuguese" would avoid potentially misleading the reader to assume they were attacked in El Pinal (even though the hook does not say this), but "attacked" is clearer about what kind of hostility the Spanish encountered. I will be on the lookout for sources that mention the numbers or the type of ship involved. _dk (talk) 05:51, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
  • If they already left El Piñal when attacked, why would you say "they abandoned El Piñal after they were attacked"? HaEr48 (talk) 06:40, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
  • That's a good point. Though one can make an argument about what constitute "abandonment", there is no need to belabour this point if we just switch to "after meeting hostilities from the Portuguese" as suggested. Would you agree to this, @Zanhe:? _dk (talk) 07:05, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
  • That's fine, enough ink has been spilled over this. Let's go with ALT1:
  • ALT1 ... that Spain abandoned El Piñal, its trading port in China, after meeting hostilities from the Portuguese? -Zanhe (talk) 04:42, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Louise Antonini

  • ... that Louise Antonini disguised herself as a man to join the French Navy and Napoleon's army for 25 years before reaching the rank of sergeant? Source: In french but is translationable via google[43]

Created by Meanderingbartender (talk). Self-nominated at 10:44, 14 April 2018 (UTC).

Gregg Pilling

Created by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 21:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC).

Nikki Sievwright

Created by Philafrenzy (talk). Self-nominated at 20:35, 9 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Hi Phil, I'll review this. – Lionel(talk) 09:37, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 10[edit]

Märchenerzählungen (Schumann)

Pianist Clara Schumann in 1853
Pianist Clara Schumann in 1853
  • ... that Clara Schumann (pictured) noted in her diary in 1853 that her husband was very happy about completing his Märchenerzählungen, fairy-tale music for piano, clarinet and viola? Source: several
  • Reviewed: Wendreda
  • Comment: The composer threw himself from a bridge a week after he could give the printed work to the dedicatee, - but we have enough drama on the Main page ;) - I like that the image is from the very year she wrote that, - and it's not well known, not in her article.

Created/expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:51, 17 April 2018 (UTC).

Owen Harding Wangensteen

Created by Whispyhistory (talk), Iainmacintyre (talk), and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 19:21, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 11[edit]

Schweiz am Sonntag

  • ... that in Switzerland, national and cantonal councils members from seven parties filed a complaint with the Schweizer Presserat against Schweiz am Sonntag due to its reporting of politician Geri Müller's sexual conversations? Source: SRF.ch
    • ALT1:... that Swiss newspaper Schweiz am Sonntag was found to have violated the privacy of politician Geri Müller over an article it published in relation to Müller's sexual history? Source: Horizont

Created by Lucky102 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:35, 11 April 2018 (UTC).

George Speake

Horse head terminal from the Staffordshire helmet
Horse head terminal from the Staffordshire helmet
  • ... that George Speake is currently reconstructing the more than 1,000 pieces (one pictured) of the Anglo-Saxon Staffordshire helmet? Source: ICON 2016: "The last great discovery of the Hoard will be the final form of the helmet, currently worked on by George Speake and Chris Fern." Butterworth et al.: "The Anglo-Saxon Staffordshire Hoard contains, alongside the well-publicised gold and silver objects, a large collection of over 1000 fragments of die-impressed silver sheet.1 These gilded metal sheets, when pieced together with other structural fragments of the hoard, provide us with a large portion of what is considered to be a highly-decorated, high-status helmet."

5x expanded by Usernameunique (talk). Self-nominated at 03:13, 11 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Meh, doesn't seem notable enough for a DYK. Maybe need to add something about who this person is.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 15:36, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Not enough. The DYK would be full of "some person associated with some college who wrote some book". Besides, scholars have to reconstruct artifacts all the time. This is not the first scholar to do a thousand-piece "puzzle" and wont be that last. Not very interesting either.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 17:25, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
  • PlanespotterA320, if you would like to conduct the full review, consistent with the DYK criteria, in addition to the drive-by commentary please feel free, but otherwise I'm marking this as needing one. We all find different things interesting; planespotting doesn't interest me, for instance, but that would be a poor reason to hold up a DYK on the subject. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:24, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:24, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg New enough. Long enough for a new page (1991 characters), but is this supposed to be a 5x expansion? If so, it falls well short of the characters needed. As the article stands, there are no copyvios detected. Hook is short enough and verified with inline citations. Sources appear reliable. QPQ is done. To pass as an expansion, though, it would need additional content. SojoQ (talk) 09:41, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 12[edit]

Yang Gui

Created by Zanhe (talk) and Med Nyin (talk). Nominated by Zanhe (talk) at 04:09, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

Ray Straw

5x expanded by Kosack (talk). Self-nominated at 15:28, 14 April 2018 (UTC).

Sílvia Rebelo

Created/expanded by SirEdimon (talk). Self-nominated at 00:53, 13 April 2018 (UTC).

Kronans Apotek

  • ... that in 1967, sales in Kronans Apotek were amounted to 31,3 million SEK, of which 28 million SEK were to pharmacies?

Created by Newroderick895 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:05, 10 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 13[edit]

Bradenton Riverwalk

  • ... that the Bradenton Riverwalk attracts 100,000 people to the downtown Bradenton area every year? Source: [48] "Per the American for the Arts economic impact calculator, our 75+ events attract 100,000 people to downtown..."

Created by TheGridExe (talk). Self-nominated at 15:27, 19 April 2018 (UTC).

Quiz (play)

  • ... that the audience of the play, Quiz act as the jury for a fictionalised version of the Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? "Coughing Major"? Source: Independent

Converted from a redirect by Blethering Scot (talk), Alaney2k (talk), and The C of E (talk). Nominated by The C of E (talk) at 15:56, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

Muehlenbeckia astonii

  • ... that the endangered New Zealand shrub Muehlenbeckia astonii is also known as zig-zag plant and wiggy-wig bush? Source: "It sometimes goes by the names wiggy-wig bush, zig zag plant, wirebrush, shrubby pōhuehue, or mingimingi (a generic term for many small-leaved shrubs)" (Given 2001 and Endangered Species Foundation (n.d.) respectively, cited in article)
    • ALT1:... that Muehlenbeckia astonii is a popular garden plant, but is endangered in the wild because many male and female plants are too far apart to cross-pollinate? Source: "In most of the sites it is known from there are only 1–3 old plants, and almost no seedlings: male and female flowers occur on separate plants and need to cross-pollinate, so isolated individuals cannot reproduce. Several small populations show no out-crossing because males and females are too far apart." Muehlenbeckia astonii, Shrubby tororaro (Muehlenbeckia astonii Petrie) recovery plan 2000–2010

5x expanded by Giantflightlessbirds (talk). Self-nominated at 08:36, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article has been expanded fivefold, is more than long enough and has no copyvio issues. Both hooks are inline sourced and the user does not need a QPQ review. Good to go. Kosack (talk) 18:46, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Persian column

Top of Achaemenid column from Persepolis
Top of Achaemenid column from Persepolis

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 00:51, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough, long enough, neutral, and well referenced. QPQ is done. Image is freely licensed. However, I could not verify the hook. I checked the sources linked above, and could not find one that explicitly says the first modern revivals were by Indian Parsis. Am I missing something? -Zanhe (talk) 05:19, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Ok try p. 59-60, and note 35, p. 68 on the first Indian source? Also, the Encyclopedia Iranica article on the period up to 1925 makes no mention of Achaemenid Revival architecture, because there wasn't any. There's this lecture, around 6:10-6:20, 23:15-26 and 32: from the same prof. Johnbod (talk) 18:29, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
I read pages 59-60 and 68, without finding anything that directly supports the hook. And I don't know what lecture you were referring to as you didn't provide a link. Please provide a source and a quotation. Thanks. -Zanhe (talk) 19:37, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Probably I'd better think of a new hook if the above doesn't do it for you. I'll try to find something less interesting matching with a direct quote. Sorry I forgot the lecture link. Johnbod (talk) 00:13, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Joe Mayo

5x expanded by Kosack (talk). Self-nominated at 14:19, 15 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Not 5x expanded but looks like it meets the article length requirement per "had its prose portion expanded at least twofold" (it's a BLG). Article was a stub before it was expanded. ♫ TheGridExe (talk) 17:55, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
@TheGridExe: The prose stood at 237 when I started the expansion and is now at 2179 which is well over 5x expansion? Kosack (talk) 19:18, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
@Kosack: Thanks for the clarification! Yeah, I was saying it did meet the expansion requirement regardless so it should be good. I do like ALT1 better than the initial hook based on the aim of DYK but that might be more of my personal preference. I see either one meeting the criteria. Symbol confirmed.svgTheGridExe (talk) 20:00, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Royal Bangkok Sports Club

  • ... that in addition to being the oldest racecourse and second-oldest golf course in Thailand, the Royal Bangkok Sports Club also served as its first airfield? Source: [49], in Thai, but see also [50].

5x expanded by Paul_012 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:25, 15 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article was expanded fivefold within seven days of nomination, is over the required size and has no copyvio issues. The article is well written, suitably referenced and neutral. Hook is interesting, AGF on some of the sourcing due to offline and foreign language sources. User has submitted a QPQ review to meet the requirement. Good to go. Kosack (talk) 14:14, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Ranbir Kapoor filmography

Ranbir Kapoor in 2012
Ranbir Kapoor in 2012
  • Reviewed: TBD

Converted from a redirect by Krimuk2.0 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:18, 14 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 14[edit]

Aphelinus mali

  • ... that the wasp Aphelinus mali is a parasitoid of the woolly apple aphid, a pest of apple trees? Source: "Aphelinus mali (Haldeman) is an important parasitoid of Eriosoma lanigerum (Hausmann)."

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:34, 19 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article has been expanded fivefold, is over the required size and has no copyvio issues. Hook is inline sourced within the article and the user has submitted a QPQ review to meet the requirement. Kosack (talk) 16:31, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Erica Schwartz

Erica Schwartz
Erica Schwartz
  • Reviewed: To follow

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 10:18, 14 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Dumelow, the hook is 230 characters long (spaces are included in DYK hook counts), well over the 200 max. While the list of disasters is impressive, it will need to be shorter. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:40, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks BlueMoonset. A couple of shorter ALTs follow. I will sort out a QPQ when I can - Dumelow (talk) 19:05, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Erica Schwartz provided health protection guidance for the US military's response to hurricanes, epidemics and an earthquake?
ALT2: ... that Erica Schwartz provided health protection guidance for the US military's response to Hurricane Katrina, the 2010 Haiti earthquake the Deepwater Horizon disaster and the West Africa Ebola outbreak?

Articles created/expanded on April 15[edit]

Dilara Özlem Sucuoğlu

Source: "Schon im Alter von fünf Jahren stand sie auf dem Platz.", "... ihr Vater Seref Sucuoglu, der beim Verein SF Troisdorf die U10 trainiert ...", "... spielte Dilara mit den Jungen."i "Für das Turnier mit der türkischen U 17-Nationalmannschaft ..." (in German) [51]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 10:36, 21 April 2018 (UTC).

Kelly Lai Chen

Created by Zanhe (talk). Self-nominated at 04:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

Let's Move Nashville

  • Reviewed: Interstate 678
  • Comment: Should be held until after the election on May 1.

5x expanded by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 03:10, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

Tower of History

Tower of History
Tower of History

Moved to mainspace by Michael Barera (talk). Self-nominated at 22:53, 15 April 2018 (UTC).

General eligiblity:

For an article moved to the mainspace, the "new"/"past seven days" criterion applies to the date the article was moved to the mainspace, not created in userspace, correct? Michael Barera (talk) 00:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Policy compliance:

I've removed a couple cases of close paraphrasing; upon checking for copyvios now, it appears that nearly everything that is coming up now constitutes proper nouns. Michael Barera (talk) 00:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Initial hook is 208 characters long, but discounting the ... and (pictured) it is within the character limit. ALT1 is within the 200 character limit ALT1 hook is more interesting than the the initial hook
Good catch. I've struck out the primary hook, so we can just go with ALT1. Michael Barera (talk) 00:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

QPQ: Red XN - QPQ was done on 8 January, however the creator/nominator of the article has had 4 DYK credits since that QPQ, there it is unclear if there has been sufficient QPQs since then to count as one for this nomination

I "bank" my DYK reviews in my sandbox, and always try to have 4 of them in my bank at one time, which considering that I also try to submit one DYK nomination a month means that my QPQ reviews occur about 4 months before I use them for my nominations. You can check my sandbox history and see how they cycle through over time. Hopefully, this makes sense. Michael Barera (talk) 00:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Overall: Symbol question.svg Article is new enough, is 2,899 characters long, and appears to be well sourced. @Michael Barera: please clarify on the QPQ issue.

Thanks for the review, RightCowLeftCoast! I've addressed each of your questions above. Michael Barera (talk) 00:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC) RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:24, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg@Michael Barera: I will assume good faith on the bank thing, as I have not seen someone do that before. As for the move to mainspace, it's fine; just by moving it it doesn't show a clear delineation unless one knows where to look; again it's fine, just different from what I am use to seeing. On the copyvio, 12.3 is fine, but the additional edits helped. Another reviewer is now needed to recheck.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 00:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 16[edit]

Schlafes Bruder

  • Reviewed: to come

Converted from a redirect by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 22:16, 23 April 2018 (UTC).

Father Serra statues (Ventura, California)

Head from wooden replica of Father Serra statue
Head from wooden replica of Father Serra statue
  • ... that the Father Serra statues (wooden replica pictured) in Ventura, California, have been vandalized and called "a direct slap in the face" of Native American cultures? Source: "Sources 43 and 44 contain reports on vandalism. Source 51 is the editorial quoted in the hook.
    • ALT1:... that ...?
  • Reviewed: pending

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:14, 23 April 2018 (UTC).

2018 FA Cup Final

  • ... that Manchester United are looking to match Arsenal's FA Cup winner's record in today's 2018 FA Cup Final against Chelsea? Source: Squawka

Converted from a redirect by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 22:47, 22 April 2018 (UTC).

Li Zhengyou

Created by Zanhe (talk). Self-nominated at 23:06, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

Albert Shepherd

5x expanded by Kosack (talk). Self-nominated at 12:50, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Date and length fine. Hook is cited inline in article, I assume you'd like to hold this for the FA Cup Final on the 19th of May? No close paraphrasing, just needs the QPQ @Kosack: then I can pass it. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 22:42, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @The C of E: Thanks for the review, in all honesty I hadn't considered holding for the final but that seems like a good idea considering it is coming up. I've added a QPQ review now. Kosack (talk) 16:36, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Opémiska Community Hall fire

  • ... that when the Opémiska Community Hall fire broke out, people inside the room did not evacuate because they believed that the fire was part of a performance?

Source: [54] Page 37 of the document states "L’évacuation ne fut pas immédiate car des personnes ont pensé que cela faisait partie d’un spectacle et furent mises en confiance par les manoeuvres d’extinction" which translates to "The evacuation was not immediate because some people believed that they were witnessing a performance, a belief that rose in confidence by the vigorous attempt to extinguish the fire."

Created by Acebulf (talk). Self-nominated at 00:27, 18 April 2018 (UTC).

Charlotte Serber

  • ... that Charlotte Serber created a library for the secret Project Y where one "was apt to find the librarian in blue jeans, one assistant in the best sweater girl tradition, another in strict WAAC uniform, and a third in the latest Lane Bryant number."? Source: Offline, but if you have a JSTOR account it is quoted here
  • ALT1 ... that Charlotte Serber worked at the secret Project Y during World War II, but after the war could not get a security clearance to work as a librarian at Berkeley? Source: "Charlotte Serber (1911-1967) was the Los Alamos site librarian and only female group leader of the Manhattan Project... While in Berkeley, Charlotte attempted to become the librarian for the Berkeley Radiation Laboratory. She was unsuccessful, however, because she was not able to gain a security clearance." [55]

Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:26, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

Goat Canyon (Tijuana River Valley)

Moved to mainspace by RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Self-nominated at 22:30, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

Current nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on April 17[edit]

Sessions v. Dimaya

  • ... that in Sessions v. Dimaya, Trump-appointed US Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch joined a 5–4 vote against the Trump administration? Source: "Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch [...] cast the deciding vote against the administration Tuesday on an issue long at the center of the president's agenda: deporting immigrants who commit crimes in the U.S. The ruling was the first in which Gorsuch sided with the court's liberal justices in a 5-4 decision, providing the swing vote for a result that could make it more difficult to deport immigrants who have committed violent crimes." ([56])
    • ALT1:... that in Sessions v. Dimaya, Trump-appointed US Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch joined four liberal justices to vote 5–4 against the Trump administration? Source: "Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch [...] cast the deciding vote against the administration Tuesday on an issue long at the center of the president's agenda: deporting immigrants who commit crimes in the U.S. The ruling was the first in which Gorsuch sided with the court's liberal justices in a 5-4 decision, providing the swing vote for a result that could make it more difficult to deport immigrants who have committed violent crimes." ([57])

Created by L235 (talk) and Masem (talk). Nominated by L235 (talk) at 02:39, 23 April 2018 (UTC).

Matilde Fidalgo

Created/expanded by SirEdimon (talk). Self-nominated at 00:08, 17 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 18[edit]

California Senate Bill 827

  • Reviewed: TBD

Created by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 06:44, 22 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Review: The article was, in fact, created ex novo on April 18. It contains about 2100 characters of readable prose, which is good. What's not good, though, is that this article has been marked as a stub, which unfortunately calls for temporary rejection. I would personally rate it as Start-class, and since the creator / nominator SounderBruce added the stub template himself, I'm guessing that there's some sort of misunderstanding here. But this can be easily fixed. Moving on... the article is well-cited, with each sentence in the body of the article supported by one or more inline citations, which are all well-formatted and lead to reliable news sources on the bill in question. Earwig gives it a very low likelihood of copyvio. (As an aside, regarding the structure of the article, I was a little confused with how they flowed into each other... the history section, which comes first, concludes with the bill's rejection, but then flips back in time to "Proposal" and then "Political debate". I would suggest, for the sake of readability and flow, making "History" the last section of the article, though I could understand objections to that argument.) Both hooks are good, and are cited explicitly in the article. I checked out the sources and the facts are accurately reported. I'd personally vote for the second hook since the 96-percent figure is an impressive one. In short: remove the stub template, rate it as Start-class on the Talk page, add your QPQ review, and I think it's good to go. — AJDS talk 07:58, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Joice Hasselmann

  • Reviewed: coming soon

Created by DavidStarIsrael7 (talk) and Lionelt (talk). Nominated by Lionelt (talk) at 07:42, 20 April 2018 (UTC).

Syracosphaera azureaplaneta

  • Commment:Just an afterthought to say that I have emailed the scientists involved (one of whom is a Wikipedia editor) to encourage them to supply a CC-By-SA electron microscope image of this new species if at all possible.
  • Reviewed: Hemicentrotus

Created/expanded by Nick Moyes (talk). Self-nominated at 09:06, 19 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article created within the last seven days, is over the required prose size and has no copyvio issues. The article is well written and suitably referenced and the hook is supported by an inline citation. User has submitted a QPQ review to meet the requirement. Hook is good to go. Kosack (talk) 19:38, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 19[edit]


Created by Cambalachero (talk). Self-nominated at 17:39, 23 April 2018 (UTC).

Deraeocoris brevis, Psylla pyri

  • ... that during its development, the predatory plant bug Deraeocoris brevis can consume about 400 eggs and nymphs of the pear psylla? Source: "During that time, a single Deraeocoris nymph can eat as many as 400 pear psylla eggs or nymphs."
  • Reviewed: Anvar Artykov
  • Comment: Also reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Pitcairn (athlete) The second article has been rewritten from scratch, the previous version having been tagged as incomprehensible. Here is an example of the original text "In the juvenile stadiums they will cover of honeydew, to protective purpose; the eggs will cover too of honeydew and are of yellow-orange color, besides, are of pointed form to an extremity, while in the other there is a tail."

Created/expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:05, 23 April 2018 (UTC).

Organ Grinder Restaurant

  • ... that Portland, Oregon's Organ Grinder Restaurant at one time had the largest Wurlitzer pipe organ in the world...? Source: McGinnis, 1988 "...the organ as it stands is the largest of its kind in the world...
    • ALT1:... that the Organ Grinder Restaurant's Wurlitzer pipe organ included such effects as a submarine dive alarm? Source: McGinnis, 1988 "...will reveal an authentic submarine "dive" horn which can probably be heard on the other side of town.
  • Reviewed: Katherine Oppenheimer
  • Comment: My request is that this run on June 17, Father's Day in the United States. This request is negated should sufficient actual Father's day hooks be available to run. This is an unusual request, in that I wrote the article in honor of my dad, so I'm making this with the presumption that to do so would in no way be disruptive.

Created by 78.26 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:31, 20 April 2018 (UTC).

John G. Hawthorne

  • ... that John G. Hawthorne called it "pioneering" for the University of Chicago to not suppress a sit-in with the military? Source: Chicago Tribune 1969: "U.C. Prof Hails 'Pioneering' in Sit-In Policy: [As Hawthorne said,] 'Where other colleges here and abroad have called in the police, the national guard, the military, this university, dedicated as it is to the solution of problems by intellectual, reasoning, and patient 'confrontation' of human minds has arrived at a decent, fair, and honorable solution of this crisis.'"
  • Like? Not particularly. Would I? That depends on the article itself. The one or two sentences you have in the article suggest she may be notable... or may not. It all depends on the sources available. Googling for "manhatan project women" shows quite a few sources, but whether they would be relavant, I didn't have time to tell. Through if you are interested in those topics, an overview (group article like Calutron Girls, Women in Bletchley Park, Women in NASA, etc.) might be a good start, as event he brief look at those google hits suggests this may be a notable topic (group, that is, notability of individuals is unclear). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:24, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Created by Usernameunique (talk). Self-nominated at 17:49, 19 April 2018 (UTC).

Queens–Midtown Tunnel

  • ... that at the time of its construction in the late 1930s, the Queens–Midtown Tunnel was the largest public works project in the U.S. that was not being undertaken by a federal agency? Source: NY Times 1936. "...the largest non-federal PWA project in the country." The PWA is American, and the Queens Midtown Tunnel is located in the U.S. (obviously by virtue of being in NYC).
    • ALT1:... that at the time of its construction in the late 1930s, the Queens–Midtown Tunnel was the United States' largest non-federal public works project? Source: NY Times 1936.
    • ALT2:... that U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt not only was present at the groundbreaking of the Queens–Midtown Tunnel, but also made the first vehicular trip through the completed tube? Source: Long Island City Daily Star. "On October 2, 1936, he came to Long Island City and broke ground for the start of the tunnel at a colorful ceremony. [...] Four years later the president came to New York for a one-day campaign tour. In the course of his one-day visit he found time to make the first official transit of the Queens-Midtown tunnel."
    • ALT3:... that the first person to use the Queens–Midtown Tunnel, U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, was also present at the tunnel's groundbreaking ceremony? Source: Long Island City Daily Star.

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 17:42, 19 April 2018 (UTC).


  • Reviewed: To follow

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 13:14, 19 April 2018 (UTC).

New England White

Author Stephen L. Carter in 2015
Author Stephen L. Carter in 2015

Created by Fish and karate (talk). Self-nominated at 11:44, 19 April 2018 (UTC).

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - Both alts can be improved:
    • ALT0: ... that New England White, the second fiction novel by Stephen L. Carter (pictured), tells the story of a university president who may be covering up a murder to protect the U.S. president?
    • ALT1: ... that in the fiction novel New England White, author Stephen L. Carter (pictured) writes about the murders of a black professor and a black schoolgirl set in a town described as "the heart of whiteness"?
Personally I think new ALT0 is better. epicgenius (talk) 15:32, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg epicgenius (talk) 15:32, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Andreia Norton

  • ... that Portuguese international footballer Andreia Norton played her first professional match at the age of 13 and when she was 20 years old she scored the goal that qualified Portugal for a European Championship for the first time in history? (Source:Source 1, Source 2, Source 3)
    • ALT1:... that ? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created/expanded by SirEdimon (talk). Self-nominated at 02:07, 19 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 20[edit]

Mafat Oza

  • ... that Gujarati writer Mafat Oza published his own elegy in his poetry collection Ashubh? Offline Source: Brahmabhatt, Prasad (2010). અર્વાચીન ગુજરાતી સાહિત્યનો ઈતિહાસ - આધુનિક અને અનુઆધુનિક યુગ [History of Modern Gujarati Literature – Modern and Postmodern Era] (in Gujarati). Ahmedabad: Parshwa Publication. pp. 118–119. ISBN 978-93-5108-247-7.

Created by Nizil Shah (talk). Self-nominated at 04:32, 21 April 2018 (UTC).

Leslie Webster (art historian)

Created by Usernameunique (talk). Self-nominated at 05:18, 20 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Usernameunique, thanks for the ping. I don't know if there are any instructions, but I've made the edits needed, which you can see by comparing diffs: the level-4 header is optional though nice, but the edits to DYK nompage links (final field only; the nompage field needs to retain the name of the template page) and DYKmake are required (it affects all DYKmake templates for the article, and also any DYKnom template). BlueMoonset (talk) 14:52, 21 April 2018 (UTC)


line drawing of a Boltonimecia head
line drawing of a Boltonimecia head
  • ... that the possibly blind extinct ant Boltonimecia (illustrated) has a shield like head?

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self-nominated at 01:50, 20 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 21[edit]

Home and Away: All or Nothing

Moved to mainspace by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:15, 24 April 2018 (UTC).

Turkey at the 2014 Winter Paralympics, Brazil at the 2014 Winter Paralympics, Uzbekistan at the 2014 Winter Paralympics

5x expanded by Courcelles (talk). Self-nominated at 06:22, 21 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Article was expanded more than fivefold within seven days, is over the required length and has no copyvio issues. It is also well written and suitably referenced. The hook is interesting and has a reliable inline citation. User has submitted a QPQ review to meet the requirement so this one is good to go. Kosack (talk) 11:22, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg @Courcelles: No that's no problem, I've placed this on hold again so you can make any changes you wish. Kosack (talk) 05:19, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Kosack:, there we go, all three débutante nations written and added to hook! Courcelles (talk) 13:16, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Courcelles: All three articles meet the relevant criteria. However, WP:DYKSG#H4 states that a QPQ review must be submitted for each nominated article, so two more reviews are required I'm afraid. Kosack (talk) 14:14, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Cwmhiraeth: Also pinging another editor with signficant DYK experience as this is the first multiple article DYK I have reviewed and have had to alter the nomination after the fact to include extra hooks. Could you check that I have done this correctly and the user will receive due credit. Kosack (talk) 14:16, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
@Kosack:; reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Wu Nansheng and Template:Did you know nominations/Nathan Wigg. I beleive everything here is done correctly, as I added extra DYKMake templates earlier. Courcelles (talk) 14:26, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Ok no worries, in that case this one is good to go. Kosack (talk) 15:41, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
It all looks good to me. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:02, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

James T. Sutherland

Captain Sutherland in military uniform with the Canadian Expeditionary Forces, circa World War I.
Captain Sutherland in military uniform with the Canadian Expeditionary Forces, circa World War I.

5x expanded by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 16:01, 22 April 2018 (UTC).

Warren P. Mason

Created by Spinningspark (talk). Self-nominated at 12:09, 22 April 2018 (UTC).

  • The article is new: Green tickY
  • The article is long enough: Green tickY
  • The hook is interesting: Green tickY
  • The hook is referenced: Green tickY
  • The hook is below 200 characters: Green tickY
  • A google search does not reveal any copyright violation: Green tickY
  • The article follows most other important policies: Green tickY
  • QPQ: Green tickY
  • One of the paragraphs start saying "During the war...". You should clarify which war (probably WWII, but please confirm it). The article would also be benefited with an infobox. But those things can wait, and are not a problem to promote the article (note: article history says that it was started on April 12, but it was actually started in user space and moved to main space on April 21, so it counts as new as required) Cambalachero (talk) 17:29, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Hercules' Dog Discovers Purple Dye

  • Reviewed: Greta Arwidsson
  • (I've corrected two mistakes in the quoted source text.) It feels like there should be a link to murex somewhere in the hook, to establish the mistake that Rubens has made; something like "…depicts a snail with a shell like a nautilus, not the spiny murex used in dye-making?" Also we need to be careful with the wording: a nautilus, which looks just like what Rubens has depicted, isn't even a snail; it's a cephalopod. —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 23:05, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

5x expanded by David Eppstein (talk). Self-nominated at 07:25, 22 April 2018 (UTC).

Morrison-Grady Plan, London Conference of 1946–47

  • Reviewed: [QPQ to come]

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 22:46, 21 April 2018 (UTC).

Note: I just added Bevin Plan as a third DYK article in this single hook. Onceinawhile (talk) 17:07, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

The Elvis Dead

Created by ISD (talk). Self-nominated at 11:48, 21 April 2018 (UTC).

Fátima Pinto

Created/expanded by SirEdimon (talk). Self-nominated at 00:51, 21 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Everything seems to be fine with the article, but the user is currently blocked from editing the site and I'm unsure how to progress with this entry. May need help from an admin. ISD (talk) 11:47, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Actually some things have been brought to my attention. The hook is too long and needs to be under 200 characters. ISD (talk) 06:23, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 22[edit]

Andy Kilner

  • Reviewed: Pending

5x expanded by Kosack (talk). Self-nominated at 18:54, 23 April 2018 (UTC).

D. H. Turner

A miniature from the Gospels of Tsar Ivan Alexander
A miniature from the Gospels of Tsar Ivan Alexander
  • ... that D. H. Turner orchestrated the loan of the Gospels of Tsar Ivan Alexander (detail pictured) to Bulgaria for the first time in half a millennium?
  • Source: Backhouse & Jones 1987, p. 113 "Derek's personal enthusiasm and inspiration lay behind several major schemes which brought manuscripts from the British national collection before an international public. Outstanding among these projects were the loan of the Gospels of Tsar Ivan Alexander to Bulgaria in 1977 and that of the Moutier-Grandval Bible to the Jura in 1981. Each manuscript had an overwhelming local significance for its borrowers. The Bulgarian Gospels was returning to its native land for the first time since the fourteenth century and went on display in Sofia amid a blaze of nationalistic publicity."

Created by Usernameunique (talk). Self-nominated at 02:11, 23 April 2018 (UTC).

Harrison Report

  • Reviewed: [to come]

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 21:51, 22 April 2018 (UTC).

Balluta Buildings, Villa St Ignatius

Ornamentation on the façade of Balluta Buildings
Ornamentation on the façade of Balluta Buildings

Created by Xwejnusgozo (talk). Self-nominated at 13:29, 22 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 23[edit]

Tony Appleton, Third child of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge

Tony Appleton in 2010
Tony Appleton in 2010

Created by Sceptre (talk) and Jibran1998 (talk). Nominated by Sceptre (talk) at 23:56, 23 April 2018 (UTC).

  • He’s not, though. Prince Michael of Kent held that status for decades. Advocata (talk) 01:57, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure what you mean; according to the Succession to the British throne, Prince Michael of Kent is 46th and Princess Alexandra, The Honourable Lady Ogilvy is 51st. StAnselm (talk) 03:34, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
would be just as true and less clumsy. StAnselm (talk) 03:36, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Prince Michael of Kent married a Catholic, removing himself from the succession until legislation enacting the Perth Agreement took effect a few years ago. Prior to that, he was a British prince with an older sister whom he did not precede in the succession. Advocata (talk) 07:42, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Oh, of course. StAnselm (talk) 08:43, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Saint Dominic in Soriano

  • Saint Dominic in Soriano was a 1530 painting which was believed to be of miraculous origin and to be capable of working miracles, and which had a Roman Catholic feast day dedicated to it?

Improved to Good Article status by Narky Blert (talk). Self-nominated at 21:30, 23 April 2018 (UTC).

Regional council of Grand Est

  • ... that the National Front political group in the regional council of Grand Est split into three separate groups? Source: "C'est une nouvelle crise auquel le Front National du Grand Est doit faire face. Après le départ, en septembre dernier, de dix élus du groupe à la suite de Florian Philippot, six conseillers régionaux de plus vont former un nouveau groupe, éloigné de l'extrême-droite, sous l'étiquette Conseil national indépendants et paysans (CNIP)." (France 3 Grand Est, 28 March 2018)
    • ALT1:... that the French Socialist Party unsuccessfully called upon its own candidate to step down in order to stop the National Front from winning the regional council of Alsace-Champagne-Ardenne-Lorraine? Source: "Jean-Pierre Masseret, tête de liste socialiste en Alsace-Champagne-Ardenne-Lorraine, a confirmé, lundi 7 décembre, son refus de se retirer au second tour des élections régionales. Sa liste a été déposée en préfecture lundi en fin d’après-midi — soit vingt-quatre heures avant la date limite. L’élu a agi en dépit des consignes données plus tôt par le premier secrétaire du Parti socialiste, Jean-Christophe Cambadélis, appelant à faire barrage au Front national." (Le Monde, 7 December 2015)

Created by Mélencron (talk). Self-nominated at 17:59, 23 April 2018 (UTC).

Regional council of Bourgogne-Franche-Comté

Moved to mainspace by Mélencron (talk). Self-nominated at 05:59, 23 April 2018 (UTC).


  • WASP-104b, a Hot Jupiter exoplanet discovered in 2014, has been labeled as the “darkest planet” ever found and darker than charcoal, with about 99% of light observed.

Created/expanded by LovelyGirl7 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:29, 23 April 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 24[edit]

Special occasion holding area[edit]

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